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#1 Jeneeus

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Posted 08 January 2020 - 03:42 AM

I realized that while I'm leveling, it seems the base EXP on killing monsters are very very slow (even slower than most official revo-classic and pre-renewal servers) while the job EXP is a little bit faster as if I'm in renewal. Is this intended or is there something wrong with the EXP table?


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 03:52 AM

No one has yet to respond to this, I posted about this also. It's crazy slow. I'm currently 15/18. This is not cool cause I can't progress to culvert and my skills use too much SP compared to my Level.
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Posted 08 January 2020 - 07:59 AM

it's the exact same as renewal, but with a bit increased values on both to make it slower.

I guess ppl playing chaos forgot how "vanilla" renewal is not that fast


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 08:36 AM

I played back before 2-2 job classes were a thing. It was never this slow, I have never had such a grind in my life, if this is how renewal was, I'm glad I skipped that
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Posted 08 January 2020 - 08:58 AM

you guys forgot the cap lvl is 99, did you really exepect they would make fast lvling so everyone would get lvl 99 in 1 week get bored and quit?


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 09:11 AM

Not fast leveling, but decent leveling. Your talking as if there aren't multiple characters to make and end game content where people get bored at 99. There is a imbalance, I either get bored now or get bored later and make a new character. I'm more of the first option. I'm literally falling asleep
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Posted 08 January 2020 - 09:15 AM

Im spending a amount of zeny for potions in culvert not making back when I farm because I can't progress further because I am slowly grinding to get just one level. It's imbalanced.
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Posted 08 January 2020 - 09:18 AM

then give Chaos a shot when it gets back online, because that is the fast paced server you are looking for.


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 09:18 AM

Not fast leveling, but decent leveling. Your talking as if there aren't multiple characters to make and end game content where people get bored at 99. There is a imbalance, I either get bored now or get bored later and make a new character. I'm more of the first option. I'm literally falling asleep

well, you can have decent lvling if you buy vip + battle manual and others boost exp stuffs, but yeah I know, f2p = p2w we know it wouldnt be different with RT who has the money rule the game


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 09:46 AM

Honestly with this event going on, it's dumb to have vip implemented so early in a obt. It means the event isn't made for everyone with people who pay having a chance to win the event more than those who can't vip.
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Posted 08 January 2020 - 10:47 AM

It's a shame, really. Even if there's the excuse of the level cap being 99, i won't be investing THAT MUCH time in the game, not because i can't, but because i don't want to. I'm not having fun getting 0,5 per mob as a mage while they kill me in 2 or 3 hits and i'm still at level 18, stuck. I really would love to spend a coin or two in the game, but the way it is now, it just feels like ''buy vips and stuff so you can actually play in a normal pace. And oh, the event will be only for cashers too, so don't bother hyping and trying to level up fast, you won't make it''. Again, it's a shame after all the hype that me and my friends felt.


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 10:53 AM

And that is true, early stages of the game are made to teach players about the game mechanics and progress. If you want people to take 3 months to get 99, is better increase the exp curve from 85 to 99 where players already has a build than block people on early levels.

 

Can't list a game where you need days to pass the very early game.


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 11:11 AM

Well, let's see how they will adress it. It might be an OBT thing, but it still makes me think if this is going to backfire. I do believe some people will enjoy and play the game at this state, but the way i see it a lot of people will let go of the OBT because of this.


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 02:12 PM

I agree with these. The Grind at low level now doesn't make any sense. Heavy Grind should start at higher levels, not at level 7. Please revise this at least and give us some decision notice
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Posted 08 January 2020 - 02:19 PM

leveling is actually r3t4rded ..  at level 4 im already a mage lol..  a mage that cant do anything aside from slapping with her rod to monsters. coz sp pool is too low.. i can only casts firebolt for 1-2times then no more sp lol.. now back to slapping monsters in the next 3hours.

do you guys want me to become agi wizard or melee wizard? lol its not fun

 

they could have fasten the exp table leveling for 1-30.. then 30+ is starting to be hardcore


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 02:48 PM

 

leveling is actually r3t4rded ..  at level 4 im already a mage lol..  a mage that cant do anything aside from slapping with her rod to monsters. coz sp pool is too low.. i can only casts firebolt for 1-2times then no more sp lol.. now back to slapping monsters in the next 3hours.

do you guys want me to become agi wizard or melee wizard? lol its not fun

 

they could have fasten the exp table leveling for 1-30.. then 30+ is starting to be hardcore

 

I'm going through the same thing. Don't forget that some times you don't have enough damage to kill a monster, so he comes to you and pretty much gives you a hit kill. There's no way to make money early, so that melee strategy will not work forever cause your teleports and potions will be spent in no time and you will not have zeny to replanish them.


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 03:39 PM

I, myself, am fine with slow EXP growth. My problem is the balancing between base and job. If the base EXP is intended, I think job EXP should be a little bit slower too (around 10% slower). And yes, the job EXP would still be faster around job <10-ish than base.

 

EDIT: Is having faster job EXP even at later levels intended too? I just realized that I red some renewal news that the job EXP would be faster for pre-3rd classes, this is one of the reason I can think of...


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 04:14 PM

yes job exp is faster, because getting your skills is more important than a few stat points, that way your character feels "complete"


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 04:32 PM

i wouldnt bother level grinding in RT , im playing this server because im waiting for reopening of renewal server and besides i learned my lesson in re:start so yeah thats all...


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 04:51 PM

yes job exp is faster, because getting your skills is more important than a few stat points, that way your character feels "complete"

 
I see. I guess I'll try to reach job level 40+ if that part would now be slower than base. I'm still at job ~20 anyway. If it's still faster, I think there really is a problem...
 
Thanks for the answers and also to everyone who commented. :no1:


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 05:00 PM

It certainty feels faster when you are in a party, but solo exp seems a bit gimped.


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 05:50 PM

It seems the base and job EXP growth are intentional, based on what Cinnamod posted just an hour ago... And also, it also seems that the base EXP is getting faster than job EXP over job 20, which seems to be a little bit balanced.

 

According to the staff

The EXP is using Renewal's, but the requirement to level up has increased by 2% ~ish per level.

 

 

Since we are sitting at 99/50 cap with no trans yet, it makes sense.

 


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 05:58 PM

Still doesn't make sense to have to grind at lv 9


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 06:44 PM

I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing the insane starting curve. The grind should be in the later levels. I'm getting bored in the start of the game. The pacing is horrible. Skills being "complete" means nothing if you don't have the stats to survive where you should be. I'm using a swordsman in culvert and I have 55 SP, that's 3 bashes and I'm drained. Then I have to survive getting hit and wasting pots that I can't really afford cause I have been grinding the same zone for almost a whole day. I'm level 25 still in lvl 1 culvert
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Posted 08 January 2020 - 11:20 PM

^ go to geffen and kill poison spore or other places like payon map/payon cave. For mages, kill Mandragora and later Flora, and cliff kill. Same for archer if you're dex & INT.


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