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#1 Aesthetic

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 03:44 AM

65 Tempest with 80% fire resist vs 65 Forsaker/Mystic with 80% Lightning resist. Equally geared. Who wins? In FoC and in Duel.
EDIT: Lightning elec whatever the xeon is lightning but increases elec resist prolly. I've never tried to enchant with lightning resist.

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#2 Mortuus

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 04:04 AM

If the tempest cant sleep the shaman and the forsaker isnt able to slow/chaos the tempest, probably the one who got more luck with crits.

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:19 AM

i think saker>tempest>mystic

but a lot depends on lag or rather lack of it, basically you will both slow each other and whoever casts chaos totem/sleep wins

overall any shammy is easier to play in 65 foc because of the great hp they have in comparison to tempest
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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:21 AM

Hmm Forsaker Have Skill Reduces Like 10% Fire Resistance...
If Forsaker Can Cast It Before Sleep/AoE...Maybe With Lucky
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#5 Aesthetic

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 10:00 AM

OK thanks for the replies. And how hard is it to survive as a 65 tempest with 80% elec or lightning whatever + fire resist? All others would be just from like a +3 TB wand and magic shield.
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Posted 08 August 2010 - 01:53 PM

Even if sleep missed. Tempest have instant heals >_> Shaman only have 1 good heal (the non-HoT one), that they can use only once with tempest.
I dunno, Forsakers have chaos totem, but it doesn't work as well. It kinda breaks now and then when you use fireball on them. I also forget how long it lasts.
I think Tempest and Forsaker would be more evenly matched. Depends who lays chaos totem or sleep first like people said above. Tempest would have lower hp compared to a shaman. So it's hard to say...
I think Tempest would win all the time against Mystic though.
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Posted 09 August 2010 - 01:03 AM

I find Forsaker very hard to beat, Loa's+Chaos = ouch.

Of course I can do Holy Bolt+Sleep too, we need to see who misses the slow.

Both have heals but the Templar ones heals more with shorter CD, but Shamans have higher HP.

Shamans hit harder naturally even with similar gear, and they have int in their sets. On the other hand Gravity made Tempests have mnd as their main stat.

I say evenly matched. Not sure, I don't have max resistance myself. :unsure:

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Posted 10 August 2010 - 08:52 AM

choas totem is .5 seconds faster than sleep, and lasts 6 seconds longer. chaos totem has longer range than sleep. and fear+loa's+res down+fire totem = any s2 tempest is dead. saker>tempest>mystic. but everyone beats mystics 1v1

*edit* yes chaos totem breaks on damage, but it recasts its 3 second fear every 2 seconds so, even tho its breaking fear everytime i hit you, you're staying fear'd as long as your inside the range, and loa's makes sure you cant leave. thats 20 seconds of 3 second fear's every 2 seconds. not much lives.

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Posted 15 August 2010 - 06:06 AM

sorry this has nothing to do with anything about this post
but Baron your little video about the noob affect is the funniest thing ever xD
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#10 Aesthetic

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 03:15 AM

And if it was nukes and heals only? no totems and no sleep and other aoes
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 03:23 AM

tempest coz the saker would run out of mana faster xD
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 04:03 AM

no saker would win that cos even with capped resistance, can hit up to 1k and since tempest has about 2k less hp...unless tempest has s1 int set but again it all comes down to gears but with same gears ( or similar) saker wins nuking contest
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#13 Aesthetic

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 08:54 AM

I'm going saker lolz playing a templar is fing boring -.-
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 10:14 AM

who ever goes pb 1st
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 10:16 AM

who ever goes pb 1st


nah shammy pb > turan pb , well shammies dont die usualy in 1 hit whereas tempest die in 1 hit from shammy pb :rice:
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 10:29 AM

tempest pb takes bonus damage from shammy pb, while shammy pb takes reduced from tempest pb.
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#17 Aesthetic

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 09:06 PM

Not really the right question to ask here but where to grind on lv47 as a shammy? those crusader -_-s near the entrance of SH?
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 10:35 PM

yes or premium dungeon in trifi if u have prem
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 07:54 AM

choas totem is .5 seconds faster than sleep, and lasts 6 seconds longer. chaos totem has longer range than sleep. and fear+loa's+res down+fire totem = any s2 tempest is dead. saker>tempest>mystic. but everyone beats mystics 1v1



You need a lot of Fire Resistance if you want to survive my Mystic.
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 08:14 AM

You need a lot of Fire Resistance if you want to survive my Mystic.


i think what we all meant is that only based on skills those classes have, assuming both players have equal gear both capped resistance to each others elements and same skill lvl
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 08:17 AM

I didnt like the 'everyone beats mystic 1 vs 1'

But okay... What a mystic can do is drop that healing totem, pew pew on that tempest... wait for the tempest to land sleep on the mystic... Then its a matter of damage and resistance... If the mystic Survives then he has to pew pew even more...

Well, any 65 Tempest out there in Valdes wanna test?

I did beat Moois Tempest who is level 76 in a few crits:P
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 08:24 AM

mooi doesnt have any resistance or very little resistance >.>

good luck surviving sleep, even with maxed resistance it's close to impossible

i can log in and test it now?
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 08:52 AM

You need a lot of Fire Resistance if you want to survive my Mystic.

its 80%. and i have 7k hp. im a forsaker, and i beat ANY mystic 1v1. mystics are a support class dont try to dps with them, it fails.
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 08:58 AM

Yee, Mooi doesnt have any resistance at all, but it was fun :p_devil:

Cant come online atm, going to a party in like 30 mins...
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 09:22 AM

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