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#1 Fleek

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Posted 31 January 2020 - 05:15 AM

Hello Guys, i'm working on a crusader and was trying to get 190,0 aspd, ppl told me the <https://calc.irowiki.org/> could be used on transcendence but by my simulation i should have 190 aspd with my setup and in-game i only reached 188.

 

lv93

str-80

agi-80

dex-50

int-24

vit-12

 

Hallberd (2aspd)

panties + undershirt (set)

Sakkat

 

Actually, working on variations with the simulator i found out that i should have reach 190 aspd with only 57 agi, considering AgiUP, Blessing and Berserk Potion, also considering a plus 2aspd hallberd (included on the calculus).

 

Experiment:

 

Real (Simulation)

No buffs only equips = 173 (176.76)

Spear Quicken = 182 (185.17)

Agi and Bless = 183 (186.36)

Bersrk Potion = 188 (190.00)

 

Conclusion: Seems to me that the aspd base calculus is different from the simulation version, the buffs seem right.

 


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#2 NihonHikikomoriK

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Posted 31 January 2020 - 06:02 AM

so then you needed 95~99 agi around to get 190 aspd  :heh: RIP useful information for others trying to get 190 aspd though your sacrifice is not in vain  :ok:


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#3 Ashuckel

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Posted 31 January 2020 - 08:05 AM

pretty sure when ppl say to use the irowiki calc to plan your stats, it is just to plan the stat distribution :v

the aspd formula is in the wiki anyways
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Posted 14 February 2020 - 03:47 AM

what build is this?? not a critical build right


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Posted 14 February 2020 - 01:06 PM

pretty sure when ppl say to use the irowiki calc to plan your stats, it is just to plan the stat distribution :v

the aspd formula is in the wiki anyways

 

Well, I'm trying to calculate the ASPD using the wiki (https://irowiki.org/wiki/ASPD) and there's a lot of missing information, so even then it's a no-go.

 

"Each class has a Base ASPD (146 or 156) which is affected by the weapon (-50 ~ +2). Equipping a shield reduces ASPD by 5 ~ 10."

 

 

1 - I don't know the classes has base 146 and the ones that have 156. Since I'm calculating for my Rogue, I'll assume it's 156 because well, they're supposed to hit fast.

2 - I don't know the ASPD penalty per weapon (dagger, bow, etc)

3 - I don't know the shield reduction in ASPD. 5 ~ 10 is dependent on what? Class?


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#6 NihonHikikomoriK

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 03:04 PM

From looking at the irowiki of rogue class their base aspd is 156

 

https://irowiki.org/wiki/Rogue

 

if you scroll to the very bottom it shows you the aspd penalty for each weap etc


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Posted 14 February 2020 - 03:32 PM

From looking at the irowiki of rogue class their base aspd is 156

 

https://irowiki.org/wiki/Rogue

 

if you scroll to the very bottom it shows you the aspd penalty for each weap etc

You are right.

 

Do you know what the "from thief" column means in the ASPD table?

 

 

Dagger has a -5 ASPD, but the "from thief" column says +3.

 

 

Does it mean that dagger is a global -5 in ASPD, but if you are a thief/thief evolution job, you only get -2 because you get +3 bonnus on daggers from being a thief?


Edited by Hardc0re, 14 February 2020 - 03:38 PM.

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 03:41 PM

each class has different penalties for aspd with each weapon type, that includes the later jobs in the evolution line.

"from thief" simply means how it changes compared to using it on rogue, instead of a thief.


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