Shopping Board is a perfect example of a work of an uninterested dude - Ragnarok Online Community Chat - WarpPortal Community Forums

Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

Shopping Board is a perfect example of a work of an uninterested dude


  • This topic is locked This topic is locked
15 replies to this topic

#1 leinnad1991

leinnad1991

    Amateur Blogger

  • Members
  • 110 posts
  • Playing:Nothing

Posted 22 February 2020 - 02:58 AM

I am new to this server and don't like complaining about little things. To be honest, I am enjoying most of the new stuffs in this server, offline vending being my top 1. But the shopping board lacks depth BIG TIME.

 

 

 

Case sensitive

First of all why is it case sensitive? It might because of Ragna engine or stuff but if it can be not case sensitive it will be a lot better and wo'nt be confusing for newbies.

 

Card Searches

Can't query with equipment's Card prefixes/suffixes or at least the card name itself. For example if I want to search for "malicious" (Hunterfly Card), I can get results like Malicous Shadow set, Hunter fly card but I can't get gears compounded with HF card.

 

Query Starts with Items Db rather than the Market

You'll always get the error result "Too many results ... "  because the query starts at the main db rather than the market.

 

The fix last patch

They fix the bug of buying the wrong item with the board last patch by making it 1 at search per board click. They might be running out of time last maintenance but I hope they get a better fix than this lazy remedy next patch. It makes the poor board worse. Now I have to escape click the board, then repeat as needed. 

 

Despite this bad elements of the board, I really like the function of buying directly from the results.

 

Thank you.

 

 

 

 

 


  • 0

#2 aTID2

aTID2

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 1710 posts
  • LocationLocation
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Server

Posted 22 February 2020 - 03:26 AM

Too many post about shopping board

People want ragial back because shopping board is hard to use.

 

We didn't saw any concern about this problem too. I mean why we need other user friendly but mainly market in game is broken?


  • 0

#3 leinnad1991

leinnad1991

    Amateur Blogger

  • Members
  • 110 posts
  • Playing:Nothing

Posted 22 February 2020 - 03:35 AM

I remember teaching some returning player about the shopping board because she can't use it. I felt like I am cinnamon for while back then. 


  • 0

#4 Fourbid

Fourbid

    Amateur Blogger

  • Members
  • 153 posts
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:RT: Chaos

Posted 22 February 2020 - 03:36 AM

I am new to this server and don't like complaining about little things. To be honest, I am enjoying most of the new stuffs in this server, offline vending being my top 1. But the shopping board lacks depth BIG TIME.



Case sensitive
First of all why is it case sensitive? It might because of Ragna engine or stuff but if it can be not case sensitive it will be a lot better and wo'nt be confusing for newbies.

Card Searches
Can't query with equipment's Card prefixes/suffixes or at least the card name itself. For example if I want to search for "malicious" (Hunterfly Card), I can get results like Malicous Shadow set, Hunter fly card but I can't get gears compounded with HF card.

Query Starts with Items Db rather than the Market
You'll always get the error result "Too many results ... " because the query starts at the main db rather than the market.

The fix last patch
They fix the bug of buying the wrong item with the board last patch by making it 1 at search per board click. They might be running out of time last maintenance but I hope they get a better fix than this lazy remedy next patch. It makes the poor board worse. Now I have to escape click the board, then repeat as needed.

Despite this bad elements of the board, I really like the function of buying directly from the results.

Thank you.


The board would be ideal if it can sustainably produce better search results like costumes etc. I still prefer this board rather than ragial. The board should also be expanded to capture vends in other towns. Payon and other areas are going hunted.

Over all the game is getting better and the board is my only concern so far.
  • 1

#5 leinnad1991

leinnad1991

    Amateur Blogger

  • Members
  • 110 posts
  • Playing:Nothing

Posted 22 February 2020 - 03:38 AM

The board would be ideal if it can sustainably produce better search results like costumes etc. I still prefer this board rather than ragial. The board should also be expanded to capture vends in other towns. Payon and other areas are going hunted.

Over all the game is getting better and the board is my only concern so far.

 

At first. I actually like that the board is per City, it makes the market a bit trickier but you're right, it makes other town ghost. 


  • 0

#6 deforte

deforte

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 1129 posts
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos

Posted 22 February 2020 - 03:40 AM

I am new to this server and don't like complaining about little things. To be honest, I am enjoying most of the new stuffs in this server, offline vending being my top 1. But the shopping board lacks depth BIG TIME.

 

Case sensitive

First of all why is it case sensitive? It might because of Ragna engine or stuff but if it can be not case sensitive it will be a lot better and wo'nt be confusing for newbies.

 

Card Searches

Can't query with equipment's Card prefixes/suffixes or at least the card name itself. For example if I want to search for "malicious" (Hunterfly Card), I can get results like Malicous Shadow set, Hunter fly card but I can't get gears compounded with HF card.

 

Query Starts with Items Db rather than the Market

You'll always get the error result "Too many results ... "  because the query starts at the main db rather than the market.

 

The fix last patch

They fix the bug of buying the wrong item with the board last patch by making it 1 at search per board click. They might be running out of time last maintenance but I hope they get a better fix than this lazy remedy next patch. It makes the poor board worse. Now I have to escape click the board, then repeat as needed. 

 

Despite this bad elements of the board, I really like the function of buying directly from the results.

 

Thank you.

 

I seem to love the updates too and this feature, Shopping Board.

 

Case sensitive?

have to try search your Kafra Storage? it works the same way

 

Card Searches?

it is just a simple search app that search what ever match your input. its not even part of the update list but people need atleast something as replacement of ragial. it act like a simple search that you must know what you are searching for, more likely if the searcher is garbage the result is also garbage and its not google for god sake. but wishing they implement more functionality and search criteria.

 

Query Starts with Items Db rather than the Market?

it just prevent db overload that it might lag the server for showing too many results, besides there is a db sites for every item ingame, just copy in paste the item name and viola, you have your results, showing other items might distract you from buying xD

 

The fix last patch

its just quick hot fix to prevent real buyers from buying unwanted items, not for snipers. hope the real fix comes soon and also more features even a website version would be better since it is easy to customized xD


  • 0

#7 aTID2

aTID2

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 1710 posts
  • LocationLocation
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Server

Posted 22 February 2020 - 03:44 AM

I seem to love the updates too and this feature, Shopping Board.

 

Case sensitive?

have to try search your Kafra Storage? it works the same way

 

Card Searches?

it is just a simple search app that search what ever match your input. its not even part of the update list but people need atleast something as replacement of ragial. it act like a simple search that you must know what you are searching for, more likely if the searcher is garbage the result is also garbage and its not google for god sake. but wishing they implement more functionality and search criteria.

 

Query Starts with Items Db rather than the Market?

it just prevent db overload that it might lag the server for showing too many results, besides there is a db sites for every item ingame, just copy in paste the item name and viola, you have your results, showing other items might distract you from buying xD

 

The fix last patch

its just quick hot fix to prevent real buyers from buying unwanted items, not for snipers. hope the real fix comes soon and also more features even a website version would be better since it is easy to customized xD

 

Please stop protecting it, It just bad. We know it. 

 

Its not new, this is old(with buy anywhere options) system that no one ever use  :ani_shy: 

db overload can be cap, I post so many times. (Like display 5-10 items randomly instead of all, or just display 20-30 vending)

 

Also Kafra is better because it can using "ENTER" OMG idk why dev doesn't concern about this  :hmm:


Edited by aTID2, 22 February 2020 - 03:46 AM.

  • 0

#8 leinnad1991

leinnad1991

    Amateur Blogger

  • Members
  • 110 posts
  • Playing:Nothing

Posted 22 February 2020 - 03:47 AM

I seem to love the updates too and this feature, Shopping Board.

 

Case sensitive?

have to try search your Kafra Storage? it works the same way

 

Card Searches?

it is just a simple search app that search what ever match your input. its not even part of the update list but people need atleast something as replacement of ragial. it act like a simple search that you must know what you are searching for, more likely if the searcher is garbage the result is also garbage and its not google for god sake. but wishing they implement more functionality and search criteria.

 

Query Starts with Items Db rather than the Market?

it just prevent db overload that it might lag the server for showing too many results, besides there is a db sites for every item ingame, just copy in paste the item name and viola, you have your results, showing other items might distract you from buying xD

 

The fix last patch

its just quick hot fix to prevent real buyers from buying unwanted items, not for snipers. hope the real fix comes soon and also more features even a website version would be better since it is easy to customized xD

 

Yo Deforte senpai!

 

You're right at most points but I disagree with the db first search, It does not prevent the result list from being too populated because it searches first on Items' db not the market. so it returns the error even it does not exists in market/vendors. 


  • 0

#9 deforte

deforte

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 1129 posts
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos

Posted 22 February 2020 - 04:14 AM

Please stop protecting it, It just bad. We know it. 

 

Its not new, this is old(with buy anywhere options) system that no one ever use  :ani_shy: 

db overload can be cap, I post so many times. (Like display 5-10 items randomly instead of all, or just display 20-30 vending)

 

Also Kafra is better because it can using "ENTER" OMG idk why dev doesn't concern about this  :hmm:

 

im not protecting it, just good will thingy that thanks good i can search item while waiting for ragial to comeback lol. besides its a feature not meant for gaming, its for data gathering that might work for them coz they have database, its common sense, but if you look at the RO database its all numbers lol

 

Yo Deforte senpai!

 

You're right at most points but I disagree with the db first search, It does not prevent the result list from being too populated because it searches first on Items' db not the market. so it returns the error even it does not exists in market/vendors. 

RO database is full of numbers, not words like the item names and such. hope you understand xD


  • 0

#10 leinnad1991

leinnad1991

    Amateur Blogger

  • Members
  • 110 posts
  • Playing:Nothing

Posted 22 February 2020 - 04:26 AM

im not protecting it, just good will thingy that thanks good i can search item while waiting for ragial to comeback lol. besides its a feature not meant for gaming, its for data gathering that might work for them coz they have database, its common sense, but if you look at the RO database its all numbers lol

 

RO database is full of numbers, not words like the item names and such. hope you understand xD

 

No bro.You search based on parameter. the db contains integer codes (the numbers you're talking about) and string descriptions and other data. What they're doing is matching the search parameters fist on the db then look it up on the market which does not make sense and does not help on controlling the number of results. I am an fullstack dev for 8 years and doing SQL works for years.


  • 0

#11 deforte

deforte

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 1129 posts
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos

Posted 22 February 2020 - 04:39 AM

No bro.You search based on parameter. the db contains integer codes (the numbers you're talking about) and string descriptions and other data. What they're doing is matching the search parameters fist on the db then look it up on the market which does not make sense and does not help on controlling the number of results. I am an fullstack dev for 8 years and doing SQL works for years.

 

its seems easy, but the item names, cards affix and suffix are in the client, inside data.grf. there is now way to edit it but you can btw, its just the client interpret those things for the server, then the server lookup in the DB, with that the search is very limited the way client can handle things. its not just search db and viola. remember the clients lack of features where everything relies on it, its not just DB things.


  • 0

#12 leinnad1991

leinnad1991

    Amateur Blogger

  • Members
  • 110 posts
  • Playing:Nothing

Posted 22 February 2020 - 04:44 AM

its seems easy, but the item names, cards affix and suffix are in the client, inside data.grf. there is now way to edit it but you can btw, its just the client interpret those things for the server, then the server lookup in the DB, with that the search is very limited the way client can handle things. its not just search db and viola. remember the clients lack of features where everything relies on it, its not just DB things.

I understand your point but the client's limitation is not an excuse. What they just need to do is make the search like Kafra storage.Search on the market and SKIP the search on all available names in RO database. 


  • 0

#13 deforte

deforte

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 1129 posts
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos

Posted 22 February 2020 - 04:53 AM

idk, maybe the right term is "poor implementation" xD

 

but its still good to have, better than nothing haha


  • 0

#14 leinnad1991

leinnad1991

    Amateur Blogger

  • Members
  • 110 posts
  • Playing:Nothing

Posted 22 February 2020 - 05:18 AM

idk, maybe the right term is "poor implementation" xD

 

but its still good to have, better than nothing haha

 

Yes Senpai. Cheers!


  • 0

#15 helloiamvivianne

helloiamvivianne

    I made it Off Topic

  • Members
  • 99 posts
  • Playing:Nothing

Posted 22 February 2020 - 05:28 AM

shopping board is just bad lol period  :Emo_23:


  • 0

#16 azumak1

azumak1

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 1347 posts
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos!

Posted 22 February 2020 - 05:48 AM

Funny part is I used to use the Kafra Shop catalogs to snipe items that I saw on Ragial, just chilling in guild spot and not having to move. Most people had no idea what they were, now it's all we've got.


  • 0




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users