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[Thatch93]

Thief set worth it?

[bearl]

no

 

totally not

[Thatch93]

I mean for RT tho.

[Ashuckel]

well, you have to compare what the set gives, and what you could get instead with good individual pieces


copy/paste from wiki:
 

When this set is assembled, the following effects are bestowed:

• STR+5.
• AGI +5.
• ASPD +5%.
• Increases the user's movement speed.
• Removes the chance of using Snatch.
• Removes the draining of SP when attacking.
• If used by a Thief job type,
  • Removes one gemstone from the requirement of skills.

Card Compounds On Effect Shinobi Card Accessory

• AGI +1.
• Adds a 10% chance of using Cloaking Level 5 when physically attacked.

The Paper Card Weapon

• Increases critical damage by 20%.
• Drains 1 SP from the user when physically attacking.

Wanderer Card Garment

• Adds a 2% chance of using Snatch Level 1 on the target when doing a physical attack.
• If the user is a Thief job type,
  • FLEE +20.

Wild Rose Card Footgear

• AGI +1.
• If the user is a Thief job type,
  • Perfect Dodge +5.

Zhu Po Long Card Accessory

• AGI +1.
• CRIT +3.

 

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.5 str is mostly insignificant damage wise
.5 agi and aspd% may net you a point or at most two(if still at low agi investment) of ASPD, so this is okay ish
.movement speed is nice to have, but not really a point to consider as you could get it from other common sources
.removing the snatch is necessary to not make the set completely useless instantly
.thief is 99% of the time an autoattacking class, so the sp drain isn't a hindrance for the most part
.the only skills that consume gems are not really too powerfull, also gems are just a matter of spending a bit of zeny, and weight capacity while farming.

so, from the set effect, what you are getting that is most efficient, is 5 agi and 5% aspd, movement speed would be the second best stat there, but as mentioned, it's just  QoL.


What can you use instead of some of those set pieces? 

 

Zhu Po Long card is decent
Shinobi not so much, replacing for the above is already a 3 crit improvement, should your build need it.
If you find yourself not getting any extra aspd point from those cards above, a Kobold card replaces that agi with str instead, but gives 1 extra crit.
Wanderer card offers 20 flee, wich is okay, but the snatch autocast can be extremely annoying. A Whisper card gives the same flee without that annoyance, at the cost of receiving more damage from Ghost Elemental attacks, wich aren't exactly plenty. Of course, other reduction cards may apply to garment as well, such as Raydric.
Paper is good
Wild Rose doesn't shine until there are many more sources of perfect dodge. 5 pdodge means 5% of enemies AutoAttacks will miss. A Martyr card offering the same agi bonus but HP% instead is likely to be more useful