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#1 4379141218145725997

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Posted 26 May 2020 - 06:44 PM

Introduction: i always liked DD assassin, i like it more now that DD can crit. I have been tweaking the calcs for some time and have been stumping on a wall trying to find a good build, mainly because crit equips are not so common on RT. My focus is on PvM and some MVPs with friends

 

1- STAT build: i've come up with 2, would really like your imput

STR 80         70             +6

AGI  83         83             +10

VIT   20         14             +2

INT   01         01             +4

DEX 01         01             +8

LUK  69         81            +0

 

I can reach 180ASPD with agi and awakening, 24/28 base crit

 

2-Setup: here lies my main problem, i know the goal is to reach 100+crit, +flat ATQ and +% crit dmg. From what ive seen there are ppl out there who can crit 3-4k with 100%ish crit rate, how can i do that too?

i've come up with the setup below:

Weapons:

MH: 50+ ATQ +10 gladius[SS]3x

OH: 20%+ CRIT dmg +x gladius[SS]3x

 

Upper headgear: Hairbrush

Mid: (?)

Bottom: (?)

Chest: +4 LUK chainmail

Garnment: Bapho Jr. Manteau

Foot: Crystal pumps

Accessories: 2x [Kobold] Rosary

 

with that i can reach 96/100crit base, 106/110 with gloria. 

how would my dmg fare with that setup, is it enough for good dps with endow? am i missing something crucial? do i need +10%dmg/+7crit cards for every monster type?

last question, does the offhand refine matter?

 

Thanks guys!

 


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#2 rojoman

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Posted 24 June 2020 - 06:14 AM

Sup, fellow assassin.

Back in the days, the idea of DD were to "attack" all properties possible against given MVP, also to use ice pick (dagger) against MVPs with high def, making use of a Drake card and the double attack passive.

Example: dagger with 2 cards with 20% more damage against given element (each card), 2 others cards with race damage. Your other hand would vary, maybe attacking the boss protocol, Drake card, ice pick, stuff like that.

The critical DD could reach lv150 to 175, possibility to invest 120 points on luk, hats, boots, overpowered critical stuff.

We don't have all that -_- on RT, so you need to plan better. If you plan on going 1dex, you need critical rate from whenever ye can get:
That hat or yours
76 luk points on ur stats window
Crystal pumps paired with +3 luk food
+12 critical on both daggers, (24 crit rate total and possibly 25% damage on race or element as a secondary enchantment on each dagger)
02 Soldier Skeleton cards (+18 crit)
Choco pet (+9 crit)
02 goddess of fortunes cursed brooch (instead of kobold card, it gives 6 crit each, +12 crit total)

That sums up 106 critical rate and would cost around 200kk worth of equipments (or more). You would have 4 slots left (1 in one hand, 3 on the other), you could card it based on the MVP/mob group you aim to hunt.

If I may say, I invested around 16kk to reach 98 critical rate with 0 points on luk (I'm a Katar user). I think that, nowadays, DD crit ain't good on RT because of this:
LACK OF ASPD.

Let's say ye invest all that money to get 100 critical rate, but 185 aspd... That means 3,33 attacks per second. I can easily get to 188 aspd with Katar on, landing 4,16 attacks per second, 25% more attacks than you, so your damage per hit must be at least 25% stronger to deal the very same dps as mine, but you hipoteticaly invested 200kk on it while I invested less than 10% of that.

Daggers deal 50% damage on large size mob (most MVPS are large sized). Katar deals 75% on large mobs so... It is that hard to do a crit DD on RT.

But the normal DD is rock solid, pump dex, +2 aspd on each hand, 6 to 8 slots to card it however ye can, gets to 188 aspd with deleter pet (I guess), gets hit and attack with eggring pet, cheaper daggers, can also wear HIT or FLEE daggers.

Keep in mind tho we (assassin's) cannot compete on MVP Hunt with monks, and whenever transclasses come, we will need to find the MVP before the biochemist does. Otherwise it will just wreck it.

But if manage to find MVPs whose minimum hit rate is 390 or lower, have a priest/sage as support, ye can definitely kill it (lower tier mvps).
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#3 rojoman

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Posted 24 June 2020 - 06:14 AM

Sup, fellow assassin.

Back in the days, the idea of DD were to "attack" all properties possible against given MVP, also to use ice pick (dagger) against MVPs with high def, making use of a Drake card and the double attack passive.

Example: dagger with 2 cards with 20% more damage against given element (each card), 2 others cards with race damage. Your other hand would vary, maybe attacking the boss protocol, Drake card, ice pick, stuff like that.

The critical DD could reach lv150 to 175, possibility to invest 120 points on luk, hats, boots, overpowered critical stuff.

We don't have all that -_- on RT, so you need to plan better. If you plan on going 1dex, you need critical rate from whenever ye can get:
That hat or yours
76 luk points on ur stats window
Crystal pumps paired with +3 luk food
+12 critical on both daggers, (24 crit rate total and possibly 25% damage on race or element as a secondary enchantment on each dagger)
02 Soldier Skeleton cards (+18 crit)
Choco pet (+9 crit)
02 goddess of fortunes cursed brooch (instead of kobold card, it gives 6 crit each, +12 crit total)

That sums up 106 critical rate and would cost around 200kk worth of equipments (or more). You would have 4 slots left (1 in one hand, 3 on the other), you could card it based on the MVP/mob group you aim to hunt.

If I may say, I invested around 16kk to reach 98 critical rate with 0 points on luk (I'm a Katar user). I think that, nowadays, DD crit ain't good on RT because of this:
LACK OF ASPD.

Let's say ye invest all that money to get 100 critical rate, but 185 aspd... That means 3,33 attacks per second. I can easily get to 188 aspd with Katar on, landing 4,16 attacks per second, 25% more attacks than you, so your damage per hit must be at least 25% stronger to deal the very same dps as mine, but you hipoteticaly invested 200kk on it while I invested less than 10% of that.

Daggers deal 50% damage on large size mob (most MVPS are large sized). Katar deals 75% on large mobs so... It is that hard to do a crit DD on RT.

But the normal DD is rock solid, pump dex, +2 aspd on each hand, 6 to 8 slots to card it however ye can, gets to 188 aspd with deleter pet (I guess), gets hit and attack with eggring pet, cheaper daggers, can also wear HIT or FLEE daggers.

Keep in mind tho we (assassin's) cannot compete on MVP Hunt with monks, and whenever transclasses come, we will need to find the MVP before the biochemist does. Otherwise it will just wreck it.

But if manage to find MVPs whose minimum hit rate is 390 or lower, have a priest/sage as support, ye can definitely kill it (lower tier mvps).
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