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#1 youkidding12

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Posted 05 July 2020 - 12:15 AM

Was looking for guide in youtube

https://www.youtube....s0jUB9JU&t=349s

 

My DB RK cannot do it that fast...

I have to Cast-> move-> Cast-> move,

how come he spam it so fast and I notice he have 193Aspd,

is he doing 7hits per second?


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#2 coolvampire

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Posted 05 July 2020 - 12:54 AM

i think the video is speed up


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#3 youkidding12

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Posted 05 July 2020 - 02:01 AM

i think the video is speed up

look at the move, it is not just speeding up on video,

and he put 90 agi, must for so reason


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Posted 05 July 2020 - 02:18 AM

speedup. &

people tell you, you dont want listen.
then ask for what.

just pm the owner, a few clicks away <_< 
 


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Posted 05 July 2020 - 03:51 AM

rb rk have 0.2 cd

 

193 isn't a key

 

cast time 100% also isn't a key too


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#6 youkidding12

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Posted 05 July 2020 - 05:38 AM

rb rk have 0.2 cd

 

193 isn't a key

 

cast time 100% also isn't a key too

then what is the key?


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Posted 05 July 2020 - 06:36 AM

practice
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#8 youkidding12

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Posted 08 July 2020 - 04:33 AM

speedup. &

people tell you, you dont want listen.
then ask for what.

just pm the owner, a few clicks away <_< 
 

https://www.youtube....h?v=cwUahyZborQ

look at this video, do you still think it is speedup?

I'm looking for other possibility, &

if you don't know or try to help, 

then reply for what. <_<


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#9 bearl

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Posted 08 July 2020 - 05:20 AM

never learn  :ani_shy:

 

& there's sub thread , class specific for a reason
there's also search button for a reason

now that cinnamon isnt around, you get -_- like this.
nobody's there to move threads


Edited by bearl, 08 July 2020 - 05:22 AM.

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Posted 08 July 2020 - 05:25 AM

- 95+% delay reduction 

- fast cast, almost instant but not instant

- 189+ aspd

- good connection

 

fine tune your ratio for cast time & your internet latency, and you will be able to skip db animation


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Posted 08 July 2020 - 08:24 AM

hah, people are telling bs. You don't need to listen to them. Most people won't tell the truth. The truth is it requires sprite edit in order to be smooth like that, but it is not allow to discuss how to do it in forum. It is better to google it yourself. However, I can tell you. That only requires 90% delay reduction, 180 aspd, and about 0.15 cast time to do that if you do sprite edit. And there it no way to be as smooth as the RK in the video even you reach 193 aspd, 0 cast time and 100 delay reduction without sprite edit. GL


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Posted 08 July 2020 - 08:54 AM

not true tho. sprite edit makes it easy, guaranteed to spam if you hit 90% delay reduct and 190+ aspd, but it doesnt in anyway means you can't spam without the edit. It's just way harder to pull off exactly when you want it. Besides ping and cast time trying to time the right cast, the most prime example is of course being hit. You'll notice it easily if you stand in the poison fog vs faceworm queen/corrupted root or against beelzebub with all the minions.

 

The euRO spam is impossible for us even with sprite edit since that's 7per sec. we have custom cooldown so 5per sec max, edit or not. 

In my opinion, there really isn't a need to chase that edit tho. Having instant cast and kiting is the best way to play DB RK so you're not really standing there and spam clicking. In that regards the edit doesnt do much. Moving does cancel the rest of the animation here unlike in kRO where you are forced to finish the animation. However, kRO does allow you to cast 7per sec if you do cast time tricks. So its really just different flavors for each server. Without any cheats, we have smoother kiting cast while other servers can do spam cast on the spot.


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Posted 08 July 2020 - 08:54 AM

********recently always got double post.. nnot sure why.


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Posted 08 July 2020 - 09:56 AM

While it is possible to do this without edits, though truth is, very few folks can do this without edits while most people use edits and play along the line that they have mastered the kiting because they have the right timing with their ping lol

Don't know about this guy using edits or not but back in WoE, I think he was one of the legit players out there and played better than many idiots who used cheats and still sucked. He was one of the 1.2% of WoE population who was legit.
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Posted 08 July 2020 - 10:34 AM

Was looking for guide in youtube


My DB RK cannot do it that fast...
I have to Cast-> move-> Cast-> move,
how come he spam it so fast and I notice he have 193Aspd
is he doing 7hits per second?




https://youtu.be/FG0xmlEk6ws Then watch this lol.
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Posted 08 July 2020 - 11:24 AM

To do this without edits you need to be very good at timing, this timing will vary with your aspd, ping AND fps, thats it, if u have an high ping probably you couldnt do this, my RK in chaos isnt as fast as my RK here in my home server because of ping


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Posted 08 July 2020 - 12:05 PM

Once you have the 95% ACD, you'll need to find the perfect balance between cast time (dex or variable cast), ASPD and ping. You can use food buffs to find just the 'cast' balance or just use a buff slave to bless yourself. Use a buff slave to cast lv 1 blessing on yourself, then lv 2 and all the way up to lv 10 to see which cast time you're comfortable with. You can also use +3 dex/int food to see if it helps, if not proceed to using +4 dex/int foods and all the way up until +30 dex/int foods. Once you have find the cast you're comfortable with then start focusing on your ASPD. Are you getting adequate spam speed with 180 ASPD, 185 ASPD or 190 ASPD? Again you can use foods or a buff slave for this as well.

 

Using a direct network connection instead of wireless is important. Don't expect to have good ping unless you live near the WP's servers. Our computers and network connections are all different. We all have different network cards that functions differently and we all live in different locations that will greatly affect your latency. Some will say that 180 ASPD and 195 ACD is enough, but others may say that you'll need at least 190 ASPD. No RKs spam DB the same. Balance is key just like everything else in life.


Edited by VanishingPoint, 08 July 2020 - 12:08 PM.

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#18 bgmds

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Posted 09 July 2020 - 12:27 AM

it is never possible to be as smooth as edit with any gears or cast speed you have. It is just impossible. With all my testing, even with edit, rk can only cast about 3.5 - 4 times db per second( still not even clase to 5 times standard). And without edit, best i can do is only about 2 - 2.5 times max. no matter what gear I use. it is just impossible. both are tested with under 10ms latency.
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Posted 09 July 2020 - 12:54 AM

So many people actually cheat and their Defense mechanisms kick in to lie that they’ve mastered the way of kiting, in order to not feel bad about themselves for using cheats?

I really wanna believe you but Blacky boi is quite trustworthy too and he said it’s possible. Maybe it is possible!!!
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Posted 09 July 2020 - 02:10 AM

with 200 ping , i can do max at 4 times per second. That seem limit for me with this high ping  :ok:


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Posted 09 July 2020 - 03:54 AM

At most i can do is 3-4 DBs per s, normally its 2-3. #blameping


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Posted 09 July 2020 - 03:59 AM

to be fair tho, i honestly don't see the issue with just the game itself unlocking DB animation (so players no longer have to resort to silly edits or pings or bypass with 102% acd and whatever bull-_- sheninagans there are). The damage is nothing that OP even if you spam 7 times per sec, not to mention only 5. And this is true with regards to every official server that's even remotely up to date at the moment.

 

kRO even has ignition break spamming at max speed for 25m per cast for example, and it's self cast so it will never have an issue. DB does at best 1M~ damage in their levels at the moment, and yet they still have to resort to bypassing animation locks through casttime tricks. They still get to do 7cast/sec with that trick in kRO tho, just that they can't kite while doing it.

 

 


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#23 dcdsdss

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Posted 09 July 2020 - 05:21 AM

thank you for all kindy sharing and reply, I learn a lots
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#24 youkidding12

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Posted 09 July 2020 - 05:35 AM

never learn  :ani_shy:

 

& there's sub thread , class specific for a reason
there's also search button for a reason

now that cinnamon isnt around, you get -_- like this.
nobody's there to move threads

Comparing to other people's comments,

Your replies have zero value but bring shames on yourself,

Why bother?  :ani_shy:


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#25 bearl

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Posted 09 July 2020 - 07:43 AM

:heh:  :heh:

 

pathetic


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