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#1 Leonchascon

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Posted 02 April 2021 - 11:46 AM

 

Boots first impressions

 

They are good but the boots are not great in endgame context

You notice the damage increase, in my case is ~22-24% there are better setups than mine so results may vary

 

The boots are slightly better than I anticipated mostly because they are the slotted version so it allows people that can afford it to slot them with blut hase or odorico card (and in the future with greater papila card) 

 

You lose many stats and substats, the most common combo for Genetic I would say is Temporal Ring + Temporal Dex EA RM, most people have +9-12 temporal dex boots so that alone is 9-12 DEX points and 40 INT points from the combo, Temporal Dex boots also provide -0.5 FCT and 13% ranged damage so with the boots not granting instant CC cast you are set back a huge amount of points towards the 530 stat threshold you can ofc use food and buffs to get those stat points back but we are looking at the items without buffs

 

 Are the boots worth it? Well I had to spend all the zeny I had left for them and refine them to +9 but I would say yes the boots are worth it but mostly because they have a slot but the boots arent a priority item, specially if you already have tring + tdex combo

 

I didnt run the full math on the boots, i just compared damage with my tring and tdex setup but i would risk saying that half the damage increase im seeing is not from the extra CC damage but from the atk from the fire expansion bonus


Edited by Leonchascon, 02 April 2021 - 11:46 AM.

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Posted 02 April 2021 - 01:37 PM

Well... I don't feel as bad for not getting the boots now.


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Posted 02 April 2021 - 06:17 PM

Has someone verify that the 1% bonus per two base levels is working because that should be just in itself a 87.5% bonus for cart cannon at level 175. I don’t want this to become another FAS issue.
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Posted 03 April 2021 - 06:23 AM

I wonder how Cart Tornado is looking these days.


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#5 Leonchascon

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Posted 03 April 2021 - 08:48 AM

Has someone verify that the 1% bonus per two base levels is working because that should be just in itself a 87.5% bonus for cart cannon at level 175. I don’t want this to become another FAS issue.

 

The bonus is working but losing 40 int from the temporal ring & boot combo is too much on the formula also +14 OMW is already 105% increase so with ~200 int and OMW you get a 3180% atk CC (rounding up) while using cylinder boots you lose an entire INT tier on the formula so ~3750% atk CC so the increase is not that much, if we had the 2nd bonus the boots originally had it would be another story

 

PS: if @ashuckel sees this and sees that i did the math wrong please correct me 

 

 

I wonder how Cart Tornado is looking these days.

 

 

Even after the rework to cart tornado you still need both the shadow set (genetic shadow weapon + shadow shield) and the costume stones (that we dont have >.>) to make Cart Tornado have 0.3 sec cooldown and enough/decent aspd and delay to spam it and the damage is not great when after the 2 cart cannon reworks, cart cannon will also hit for over a million (but is a fun build and i would play it if we could) 


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Posted 03 April 2021 - 11:25 AM

So interestingly cart revolution would be closer in dps than you'd expect compared to Cart Tornado if you double chem glove with merchant acc and heavy metaling in the cylinder shoes. Maybe even more over time because you can use whatever weapon & AK cards on bosses lol. I wonder how dumb it would be compared to axe tornado lmao. No cooldown on Revo :P

 

Its like 1025% with CT and 250% with CR, but you can revo @ aspd so its like kinda stupidly close. (for the lols of course)

 

Also, no reason you couldn't use both. (Boo knockback)


Edited by Scuba, 03 April 2021 - 11:33 AM.

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#7 Ashuckel

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Posted 03 April 2021 - 01:42 PM

cart revo also ignores accuracy( but its pseudo neutral)
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Posted 17 April 2021 - 05:42 PM

How to obtain this boots? 


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Posted 17 April 2021 - 06:17 PM

How to obtain this boots? 

Cylinder Hairband is better for leveling than Cylinder Boots, but if you really want Cylinder Boots, read this:

http://renewal.playr...aspx?id=503&p=1

 

You can buy either from other players, but right now you also have a chance to obtain Cylinder Boots through the current set of gacha (Kachua) items.


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#10 Apiong

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Posted 26 April 2021 - 10:29 PM

Cylinder Hairband is better for leveling than Cylinder Boots, but if you really want Cylinder Boots, read this:

http://renewal.playr...aspx?id=503&p=1

 

You can buy either from other players, but right now you also have a chance to obtain Cylinder Boots through the current set of gacha (Kachua) items.

 

Thanks! Was the Cylinder Hairband requirement changed or is it a bug? Its now needing +8 for the full bonuses. Also, I have a +7 Cylinder Hairband, what are the safe options in refining it to +8? 


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Posted 26 April 2021 - 11:12 PM

The description was updated to reflect the updated requirement, as part of an initiative to fix bugs and balance gear:

https://forums.warpp...xing-ocp-items/

 

Safe options for refining to +8:

Look at the thread you posted in the Guides and Quests subforum, asking how to upgrade to +9.


Edited by 6250140829153758463, 26 April 2021 - 11:12 PM.

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 05:42 PM

Well... I have Temporal Dex Boots with Runway Magic but I still don't have Temporal Ring. Instead of TR, I have Chemical Glove. So... What would be better: my Temporal Boots or the Cylinder Boots. BTW, which card would you guys recommend for the Cylinder Boots?


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