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#1 crystalerLM

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Posted 24 December 2021 - 11:07 AM

After the implementation of 185, almost every Gene player found that CC’s damage has been reduced by about 30%.

 

So I decide to make a test to check what is happening.

 
I test a lot of things, and find that
The formula of CC works fine, the formual of ATK also works fine.
 
Finally I found that the bug lies in the function of "Cylinder Boots[1]"
 
The function of
"Increase Damage of Cart Canon by 1% for every two base levels" when the boots are refined to +9 or higher.
is not implemented.
 
Or we say, it is implemented before the 185 implemention, but not after the 185 implemention. So it needs a fix.
 
 
Well, I want to say that, please bring in 400760 Test Tube Boots[0], actually it is better than the sloted but nerfed version of 400761 Cylinder Boots[1].
 
We prefer 400760 Test Tube Boots[0], that is
 

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400760 Test Tube Boots[0]

Mdef + 10.
MaxHP + 3%, MaxSP + 3%.
Hit + 20 and attack speed + 4% per each level of Cart Boost user learned.
If user learned Special Pharmacy level 10, ignores defense of all race monsters by 100%.
Increases Cart Tornado damage by 10% per each level of Crazy Vines user learned.
Increases physical damage by 4% per each level of Fire Expansion user learned.
If refine rate is 5 or higher, MaxHP + 7%, MaxSP + 7%, reduces casting time of Cart Cannon by 50%, increases Cart Cannon damage by 1% per 2 base level.
If refine rate is 7 or higher, MaxHP + 10%, MaxSP + 10%, reduces casting time of Cart Cannon by 50%, increases Cart Cannon damage by 1% per 2 base level
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Gene is already so weak currently. Please no longer nerf Gene's OCP.
 
Thanks.

Edited by crystalerLM, 24 December 2021 - 11:31 AM.

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#2 ZHONGKAIH

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Posted 24 December 2021 - 02:55 PM

Agree. The bug occurs when 185 came. 

Gene is already very weak and even very hard to level up to 185 now using C.C . Why not just bring 400760 Test Tube Boots[0]? No need to fix the bug in hurry just bring in that boots in next ocp/kachua.


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Posted 26 December 2021 - 10:23 AM

@CMMayari, please report this to the team


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Posted 26 December 2021 - 11:06 PM

so it is Cylinder Boots[1] bug at +9 right?


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Posted 27 December 2021 - 03:16 AM

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Edited by Usurper, 27 December 2021 - 04:55 AM.

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Posted 27 December 2021 - 12:47 PM

I'm not using cylinder boots. I am using slotted temporal rm with ea 4 along with temp ring and pdm combo and still have reduced damage then from before.

I've checked endow and ATK formula. I've checked functionality on Dresses and LR%

I am not sure if defense bypass is working correctly or if it's something else. But with the amount of gear invested it feels as if it's atleast 30 if not 50% reduced.

Need a serious follow up on this.
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Posted 28 December 2021 - 05:13 PM

Hello! I will forward this to the team to look into, thank you!


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Posted 28 December 2021 - 10:26 PM

Hello! I will forward this to the team to look into, thank you!

 

Thank you Mayari.


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#9 Keith

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Posted 29 December 2021 - 04:09 AM

Hello! I will forward this to the team to look into, thank you!

 

I am pretty sure the problem is in the items that give bonus damage to Cart Cannon exclusively.  Such as Old Midas, Cylinder Headband and Cylinder Boots, Chemical Glove etc.  Either the script on all of those items are broken/changed or there is something going on with the base spell ID and its not recognizing.  Forward this onto the team and it should save them some time to figure out whats going on.


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Posted 29 December 2021 - 10:48 AM

Got it, I'll pass this on as well. We will need time for the QA team to test this all out. Due to the holidays however, we may need a bit of time since many are out this week.  :ani_swt3:


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Posted 29 December 2021 - 11:41 AM

Got it, I'll pass this on as well. We will need time for the QA team to test this all out. Due to the holidays however, we may need a bit of time since many are out this week.  :ani_swt3:

thank you, hope you and the staff have a wonderful holiday


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Posted 12 January 2022 - 10:47 PM

Any updates here?


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Posted 13 January 2022 - 11:08 AM

Hello! The team has to check back with the studio about this one, to check if this was an intentional ninja change they weren't aware of. Thanks!


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Posted 13 January 2022 - 02:59 PM

Thanks for the quick turnaround @CMMayari. There isn't necessary a bug with this item, at least I did not find it, but would still love to know if the team found anything interesting.


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Posted 18 January 2022 - 09:03 PM

Any Update ?


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Posted 19 January 2022 - 08:15 AM

Any Update ?

Nope, the bug in the Shoes still exists. 

 

And there also no news in bringing the desired unsloted version of shoes.

 

@Mayari, please add the unsloted shoes in the next OCP! Thanks!


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#17 YongkySH

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Posted 19 January 2022 - 04:06 PM

Theres also chance that they will also nerf the unslotted shoes
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Posted 19 January 2022 - 10:51 PM

I use Temporal Dex Before Update 185

After Update my Cart Cannon Damage is reduce about 30-50 Percents


Edited by HappyStella, 19 January 2022 - 10:52 PM.

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Posted 21 January 2022 - 01:13 PM

I use Temporal Dex Before Update 185

After Update my Cart Cannon Damage is reduce about 30-50 Percents

 

I also heard from someone using temporal set that CC's damaged is reduced.

 

So it is likely that not only cylinder shoes are buged.

 

Some other items or skill formula may be bugged too.

 

If possible could you please make a test to figure out what is the reason that your CC damage is reduced?


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Posted 21 January 2022 - 03:26 PM

So thats why CC felt like its damage output was from 6-7 years ago lol
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Posted 21 January 2022 - 03:29 PM

So thats why CC felt like its damage output was from 6-7 years ago lol


Well hello there Lorenz my dear.
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Posted 21 January 2022 - 04:16 PM

I haven't received a solid answer about this yet, but I am continuing to poke at the team until I get something, since I know many players have been asking about this.  :ani_swt3:


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Posted 21 January 2022 - 08:39 PM

Well hello there Lorenz my dear.

 

hello marty :heh: just passing by 


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Posted 21 January 2022 - 09:00 PM

I also heard from someone using temporal set that CC's damaged is reduced.

 

So it is likely that not only cylinder shoes are buged.

 

Some other items or skill formula may be bugged too.

 

If possible could you please make a test to figure out what is the reason that your CC damage is reduced?

 

I used not to much OCP Items but my damage enough for solo Memorial Dungeon .But for now with this damage I can't to solo.

I didn't play iRO at all after this issue. I miss iRO. T_T


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Posted 22 January 2022 - 10:04 AM

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Edited by IDexter, 22 January 2022 - 10:09 AM.

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