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[Cataskung]

MCT or FCT stone are in many costume enchant boxes. Eventually, all costumes in a costume egg can be exchanged to a costume enchant boxes that give those stone. However, this is not the same for job stones. Sorcerer, ranger and sura stones are exclusive for costume enchant boxes 13. If Warpportal still allows 3 costumes in one eggs to be exchanged for one version of costume enchant boxes, it will be extremely difficult to obtain these stones.

 

Like, now you have 3/10 chances to get box 13. When box 14 comes, it will be 11/12/12/12/13/13/13/14/14/14, so 3/10 chances again. I'm not sure if it is so difficult to obtain those stones like this in other servers. It's absurd.

[forthrallwow1]

Agreed.

I see a more depressing trend though.

Previously we have to roll the dice once - buy an OCP box, roll the dice, and get the the result.

Started from some early kachuas, we have to roll the dice twice - roll once to get cursed shield, roll a second time to get purified shield; same as Temporal Manteaus, Class shadow cubes.

Now we are looking at rolling the dice three times - buy a costume box and roll the dice once to receive a costume, with random box to exchange to; then roll it second time and see what stone you will get; then 3rd time weather successful enchanted on your costume or not.

 

I hope we don't see the number inceasing to 4 times, 5 times ... 10 times. Players are generally upset when they put in an investment that is significant to them but get no results. I believe that's the reason Yggdrasil Ascension gives you some guaranteed rewards when you roll certain amount of times. It just seems like that is no longer important to whoever is making that decision.

[ChakriGuard]

Or they should do some auctions. Put rare stones up for auctions with dollars. This offers many benefits. Not only it helps players to have a sweet chance of owning a desirable stone without going through bull-_- randomization, it also helps funding iRO directly too. Maybe we will get faster updates. Every auction winner should receive a special title in game such as "iROs savior" or sort of lmfao

Edited by ChakriGuard, 27 May 2022 - 09:43 AM.

[crystalerLM]

your such kind of statement seems weird. You are always complaining something that too expensive, but there is nobody forcing you to buy anything. if you cannot afford, just give up the consumption plan. Why should WP or other players sell cheap to you? Do you know go to earn money is a better way to complain here? WP employees also need salary, they don't have to serve for you if you cannot pay their salaries.

Also for enchant stone, it is also fine to wait for another month to wait it cheaper. You don't want to pay, and don't want to wait, but still want the consumption. Do you know that is ridiculous?

Support WP!

[Alirah]

your such kind of statement seems weird. You are always complaining something that too expensive, but there is nobody forcing you to buy anything. if you cannot afford, just give up the consumption plan. Why should WP or other players sell cheap to you? Do you know go to earn money is a better way to complain here? WP employees also need salary, they don't have to serve for you if you cannot pay their salaries.

Also for enchant stone, it is also fine to wait for another month to wait it cheaper. You don't want to pay, and don't want to wait, but still want the consumption. Do you know that is ridiculous?

Support WP!

 

 

Dude, I've been playing this game on and off for nearly 20 years. I think people like me are glad to support (and have been, for a very long time) - but when you start screwing these people over with RNG on top of RNG, you feel a certain way right?

 

https://imgur.com/a/jfWFcWE - verification I'm old and salty

Edited by Alirah, 27 May 2022 - 01:56 PM.

[PervySageMarty]

Dude, I've been playing this game on and off for nearly 20 years. I think people like me are glad to support (and have been, for a very long time) - but when you start screwing these people over with RNG on top of RNG, you feel a certain way right?

https://imgur.com/a/jfWFcWE - verification I'm old and salty

Lmao, you are just still a loli in my eyes.

An unhappy loli makes a man of culture unhappy.

[crystalerLM]

If you want a cheaper one, just wait for another month.

 

Since the box 13 is already there, there is no reason to complain anymore at all.

 

You don't want that next costume egg can only be traded to box 14 right. In this case you can never get the stones in box 13 anymore.   So stop complaining.

 

Since we already reach box 13. The best way for you and for WP is to keep the current path and let next costume box to be mixed with box 13 and box 14, instead of box 14 only.

 

 

Just remember one sentence:

The exchange of box 13 is already up, we cannot change it anymore. The best way to maximize your own interest is to let next costume box be traded to a mix of box 13 and box 14, instead of all box 14. Otherwise you can never get box 13 stones anymore.

 

Stop complaining and accept it.

 

[Smith]

there is nobody forcing you to buy anything.

 

You didn't quote anyone, so it's difficult to understand the context of your post. You're missing the point, though. People are buying. People are supporting WarpPortal. Many people are just frustrated that we are supporting and not getting the items we are hoping for. To gamble for the chance to gamble at a chance to gamble is an insane business model. My main gripe is that it's just not a fair business practice. It's like gambling and you win the chance to win another chance at gambling for a prize. 

 

Furthermore, when game breaking items are released, which is a completely different rant, people are compelled (forced) to buy them. It's psychological. The term for it is: fear of missing out. If you think I'm wrong, skip the next ocp or costume box. When firesale and upgrade events come, don't spend money on them. Don't watch people open them on YouTube or Twitch. If you're 100% ok with these, then this problem doesn't affect you.

[Cataskung]

your such kind of statement seems weird. You are always complaining something that too expensive, but there is nobody forcing you to buy anything. if you cannot afford, just give up the consumption plan. Why should WP or other players sell cheap to you? Do you know go to earn money is a better way to complain here? WP employees also need salary, they don't have to serve for you if you cannot pay their salaries.

Also for enchant stone, it is also fine to wait for another month to wait it cheaper. You don't want to pay, and don't want to wait, but still want the consumption. Do you know that is ridiculous?

Support WP!

 

In fact, I find your statement very weird, willing for WP to take advantage of you. People are always willing to support WP, but that should come from a fair trade. This multiple rng in one go is not. It discourages people to spend money. I know many that said if the job enchant stones are difficult to obtain and quite expensive. They'd rather skip them if this continues.

 

Even if you wait for them to be cheaper, how cheap can they be? MCT and FCT stones are in almost every boxes, and look at their prices now. (MCT stones have the same rate as job stones (garment) in case you didn't know) 

[crystalerLM]

In fact, I find your statement very weird, willing for WP to take advantage of you. People are always willing to support WP, but that should come from a fair trade. This multiple rng in one go is not. It discourages people to spend money. I know many that said if the job enchant stones are difficult to obtain and quite expensive. They'd rather skip them if this continues.

 

Even if you wait for them to be cheaper, how cheap can they be? MCT and FCT stones are in almost every boxes, and look at their prices now. (MCT stones have the same rate as job stones (garment) in case you didn't know) 

 

The fact is, on one side, you say the enchant stones are quite hard to obtain. On the other side, what you said is to make it not appear in the future, that is, more rare and harder to obtain. You are just contradicting yourself.

 

For me, I think the stone is worth my consumption, then I go get it. I mention wait, because this is your option for a cheaper one, but you don't value it at all. 

If you think it is too expensive, just skip it as yourself said. It doesn't make any sense you complain and complain again on the forum, nobody will feel sympathy.

[Cataskung]

The fact is, on one side, you say the enchant stones are quite hard to obtain. On the other side, what you said is to make it not appear in the future, that is, more rare and harder to obtain. You are just contradicting yourself.

 

For me, I think the stone is worth my consumption, then I go get it. I mention wait, because this is your option for a cheaper one, but you don't value it at all. 

If you think it is too expensive, just skip it as yourself said. It doesn't make any sense you complain and complain again on the forum, nobody will feel sympathy.

 

I don't need sympathy, but I can see there are many who agree with me. All I want is a fair trade.

 

Also, I never said I want them to be more difficult to obtain. You seem to have difficulty reading. I said that WP should stop this 3/10 chance nonsense and make that all costumes in one egg can be exchanged for one version of costume boxes, like Inferno egg for box 13 and the next egg for box 14. They used to do it like that before they change to this 3/10 if you didn't notice.

[crystalerLM]

I don't need sympathy, but I can see there are many who agree with me. All I want is a fair trade.

 

Also, I never said I want them to be more difficult to obtain. You seem to have difficulty reading. I said that WP should stop this 3/10 chance nonsense and make that all costumes in one egg can be exchanged for one version of costume boxes, like Inferno egg for box 13 and the next egg for box 14. They used to do it like that before they change to this 3/10 if you didn't notice.

 

You seem to have difficulty understanding. 

 

The exchange style of inferno egg is already given.  On any circumstances you cannot change it.  You don't have power to change anything, especially it is already given.   Under this premise, what you said is totally not reasonable at all and make no sense.

 

You say a fair trade, but I should tell you that WP has to make income.   The pricing strategy for WP is to make income and make salaries for its employees. Something fair to you is not fair to the employees who sustain the game.    Why should all the cheaps come to you?

[Cataskung]

You seem to have difficulty understanding. 

 

The exchange style of inferno egg is already given.  On any circumstances you cannot change it.  You don't have power to change anything, especially it is already given.   Under this premise, what you said is totally not reasonable at all and make no sense.

 

You say a fair trade, but I should tell you that WP has to make income.   The pricing strategy for WP is to make income and make salaries for its employees. Something fair to you is not fair to the employees who sustain the game.    Why should all the cheaps come to you?

 

Oh, boy.

 

Didn't I say if they make a fair trade, people will be more than happy to spend more and that means more income for the company? I also said this exchange rate discourage people to spend. In fact, they would opt to obtain the stones from other means rather than in-game trade or buying costume eggs for exchange.

 

Also, you said I shouldn't complain. Can't I voice my discontent here if I'm not satisfied with their poor decision? You seem dissatisfied with my opinion and voice your discontent here.

[zeywei]

The fact is, on one side, you say the enchant stones are quite hard to obtain. On the other side, what you said is to make it not appear in the future, that is, more rare and harder to obtain. You are just contradicting yourself.

 

For me, I think the stone is worth my consumption, then I go get it. I mention wait, because this is your option for a cheaper one, but you don't value it at all. 

If you think it is too expensive, just skip it as yourself said. It doesn't make any sense you complain and complain again on the forum, nobody will feel sympathy.

 

If they change whole inferno costume tradeable for box 13. 
Firesale will made it available again. 

 

Many things changes by voices in this forum.
WP made forum to hear customer's voice.
And i do believe $300 from 100 customers worth more than what you paid alone.

[Smith]

You seem to have difficulty understanding.

 
You don't need to make a personal attack. Please be civil so we can discuss this topic without the thread needlessly being locked.
 

The exchange style of inferno egg is already given.  On any circumstances you cannot change it.  You don't have power to change anything...

 
We have the power to discuss how this affects us as players. We have the right to voice our concerns as customers as long as we keep it civil. This is not a problem with only the inferno egg. This is a larger problem with the way loot boxes work and what is considered fair play. Should we roll the dice three or four times with real money or should we just have a shot at that item with a lower percentage from the first box? I would take the lower percentage than the stress and wasted time to reroll.
 

Something fair to you is not fair to the employees who sustain the game.

Do you speak for the employees? Are they being unfairly treated? Please avoid speculation.
 

You say a fair trade, but I should tell you that WP has to make income.

 
No one is arguing against WarpPortal making money.  We all want them to make more money and release content.

[Boyeteers]

Bruh just ignore. The only guy who also thinks rare ocps should stay at 0.34% and should not be at yggdrasil ascension gachas lol.

Staffs just need to update that enchant stone recycler katnipped npc if staffs don’t wanna change the 1/3 gacha inside gacha rates.

[Scuba]

Defending artificial exclusivity of low rate p2w items is one of the more bootlicky things I can think of.

[Varignon]

Or they should do some auctions. Put rare stones up for auctions with dollars. This offers many benefits. Not only it helps players to have a sweet chance of owning a desirable stone without going through bull-_- randomization, it also helps funding iRO directly too. Maybe we will get faster updates. Every auction winner should receive a special title in game such as "iROs savior" or sort of lmfao

Auction? For funding iRO? Only making the server a p2w server. RNG is RNG bruhhh, that will makes game fair to all, you can't save iRO from its status by the way. So stop dreaming and about auction LOL.

Edited by Varignon, 28 May 2022 - 12:32 PM.

[ChakriGuard]

Auction? For funding iRO? Only making the server a p2w server. RNG is RNG bruhhh, that will makes game fair to all, you can't save iRO from its status by the way. So stop dreaming and about auction LOL.

I aint the one having problems with randomization. I can pretty mucu get things I want in iRO at ease. I only offered another possible solution.

If OP speaking the truth that less people open the boxes due to bull-_- RNG in RNG, guess we are all going to get slow updates. In the end, everyone will do whatever is best in their interest and things will balance themsleves out. If they wanna put the auction too as an alternative to people who hate RNG, they can do it. If you don't like, just don't bid lmfao