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[xlordninjax]

Whats wrong with auto-attack gears, like High orc card? CD in mouth? it's a bug or updated but no description updated in those gears, cards.... ?

[Essmikayl]

nothing wrong with them, 
i will assume with high orc that you mean reflected attack which is not autoattack, and also which does not proc autocast item anymore.

[xlordninjax]

nothing wrong with them, 
i will assume with high orc that you mean reflected attack which is not autoattack, and also which does not proc autocast item anymore.

 

I expressed myself incorrectly. I assume that. thanks.
 

what i mean is that the high orc card doesn't trigger auto attacks from the cd in mouth for what reason? If this has been updated, a lot of equipment description and cards should be changed.

[VModIceCreamCake]

Reflected damage from all sources, including High Orc card, are no longer considered a physical melee attack. The Crusader skill Shield Reflect was adjusted to not trigger effects but equipment that had the same effect was 'bugged' and continued to give the effect. A year ago in a balance update the equipment was fixed to be consistent to the change in the skill.

So to your question, in these cases the item descriptions don't need to be changed as the equipment still works as stated; when you click to melee attack the effects from the equipment are triggered. I lost some useful items as well when they unexpectedly changed reflect but remember IRO is a live game and changes, good and bad, can come at any time. So like all of us players, try to get the most from your items while you can!

[xlordninjax]

Reflected damage from all sources, including High Orc card, are no longer considered a physical melee attack. The Crusader skill Shield Reflect was adjusted to not trigger effects but equipment that had the same effect was 'bugged' and continued to give the effect. A year ago in a balance update the equipment was fixed to be consistent to the change in the skill.

So to your question, in these cases the item descriptions don't need to be changed as the equipment still works as stated; when you click to melee attack the effects from the equipment are triggered. I lost some useful items as well when they unexpectedly changed reflect but remember IRO is a live game and changes, good and bad, can come at any time. So like all of us players, try to get the most from your items while you can!

 

Using only the High Orc card description (Reflect 5% of every Physical Attack Damage) makes your argument or WP position on the change invalid.

If there has been a change, the description is also changed. Or say: the high orc card was unusable, nerf or whatever WP wants.....

 

To be more incisive, you said: "are no longer considered a physical melee attack". What is the current consideration? Magic? Ranged? Unknown?

 

If there is doubt when reading the description, the minimum is to change the description to make it clear.

[FishDeity]

Ragnarok Online - Updates - New 185 Level Cap (playragnarok.com)

 

Scroll to the very bottom, it says "Reflected damage is prevented from being used to activate autocast skills."

 

 

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If there is doubt when reading the description, the minimum is to change the description to make it clear.

 

 

A lot of things are not stated clearly (sometimes even outright wrong or falsely to trick you to spend money) sadly.

[Ashuckel]

By the way,no instance of a damage reflect gear ever depicted what kind of damage the reflected damage is, it only says what it can reflect.

[xlordninjax]

Ragnarok Online - Updates - New 185 Level Cap (playragnarok.com)

 

Scroll to the very bottom, it says "Reflected damage is prevented from being used to activate autocast skills."

 

 

A lot of things are not stated clearly (sometimes even outright wrong or falsely to trick you to spend money) sadly.

 

This is one of the many reasons the game dies.

Players play, but WP (in my opinion) plays with people.

They don't explain what changes will look like, they simply change.

If there was prior communication, in-game research, this type of situation would be avoided.

[xlordninjax]

By the way,no instance of a damage reflect gear ever depicted what kind of damage the reflected damage is, it only says what it can reflect.

 

doesn't really say, but no server has changed damage reflection settings for whatever reason.

[Ashuckel]

doesn't really say, but no server has changed damage reflection settings for whatever reason.

kRO did, the server from which all updates come from.

It is a system change made by them. I'm not happy about it too since it brick'd one of my characters, but it's an official change made by the main server devs

[xlordninjax]

kRO did, the server from which all updates come from.

It is a system change made by them. I'm not happy about it too since it brick'd one of my characters, but it's an official change made by the main server devs

when? when did KRO do this?

 

Awaiting a definition from WP in this post.

 

What property or type of damage does damage reflection produce?

[Ashuckel]

https://ro.gnjoy.com...68915&curpage=1

[ad0l]

to be honest this is a good update because in my chaos play back in the days i got trouble by this afk levelers they even threatened me by reporting me for kill stealing , they think they owned that place and one of the reason why the spawn is so slow that i quit chaos and go back to thor, hate me all you want but auto reflect leveling is hindrance to manual players...

[Ashuckel]

you kill that by making building an immortal character not possible, not killing the playstyle.Players can still do the same thing, they just have to use different damage dealing methods, which more will be implemented in teh future. But sure

Edited by Ashuckel, 15 June 2022 - 10:04 PM.