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#1 Zoltor

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Posted 09 September 2022 - 07:09 PM

Yea it seems to be optimized for a RG, but how about a vit/spear skill spamming RK?  I was originally thinking of using that utterly broken CVB(still can't believe this is a thing) for infinite SP/skill spamming, but Circlet of Phoenix +10  will allow me to spam skills faster, HP +10%, MDEF +15, and it bypassed 100% Hard def.

 

 

I think this is a situation where I'll use circlet of Phoenix for damage, and when I start to get low on SP, switch to CVB to refill my SP, what do you all think?


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Posted 10 September 2022 - 01:04 AM

Black feather is better if you want the bypass, i use this to level my physical rk, also same effect as CVB for SP/kill. more beneficial than CoP

i dont think any better than black feather for leveling physRK. uh maybe black ribbon but you use spear skills instead IB right

 

 


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Posted 10 September 2022 - 03:34 AM

Black feather is better if you want the bypass, i use this to level my physical rk, also same effect as CVB for SP/kill. more beneficial than CoP

i dont think any better than black feather for leveling physRK. uh maybe black ribbon but you use spear skills instead IB right

 

 

I don't see how that's better at all.  Black Feather is not only geared towards SCs, but it lacks all the things that Circlet of Phoenix does, that overtly benefit a RK type char.  10% HP, 15 MDEF, and variable casting delay decrease, all are favorable towards RKs,  where while 50 more to hit is nice for most melee physical jobs, is very wasteful on RKs, since alot of their skills from Knight/LK jobs give them plenty of Hit bonuses.

 

 

Also Black Ribbon is very specifically designed for agi RK(for people wanting to make a odd build for RKs), not Vit Knights, and is nowhere near the same lv of gear(it just converts agi to atk, very nice for people wanting to be unique with their RK, but that's it..  However even then, with a agi RK build, you probally would be better with the Black Feather. not only the dypass Def make up for the atk conversion of agi, but a agi RK build really would need all the Hit they can get, as they won't be using skills primarily.


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Posted 10 September 2022 - 04:07 AM

I don't see how that's better at all.  Black Feather is not only geared towards SCs, but it lacks all the things that Circlet of Phoenix does, that overtly benefit a RK type char.  10% HP, 15 MDEF, and variable casting delay decrease, all are favorable towards RKs,  where while 50 more to hit is nice for most melee physical jobs, is very wasteful on RKs, since alot of their skills from Knight/LK jobs give them plenty of Hit bonuses.

 

 

Also Black Ribbon is very specifically designed for agi RK(for people wanting to make a odd build for RKs), not Vit Knights, and is nowhere near the same lv of gear(it just converts agi to atk, very nice for people wanting to be unique with their RK, but that's it..  However even then, with a agi RK build, you probally would be better with the Black Feather. not only the dypass Def make up for the atk conversion of agi, but a agi RK build really would need all the Hit they can get, as they won't be using skills primarily.

black feather have sp/kill, CoP do not
you can put extra hit and dex from black feather to vit/stat of ur liking
the bonus dex from black feather already cover the variable casting delay from cop

 

no, black ribbon is for ignition break RK, is not linked in any way to stat. its not odd build, its the entry-level meta for ignition break. maybe you're seeing the wrong item? black ribbon does not have any link to agi, its per str

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you can be str(optimal)/agi/vit/luk/dex whatever RK and use black ribbon if the skill you're using is ignition break.

 

no im not agi RK, im physical RK

and trust me i have tried all the possible combination and tried all physical RK equipment, including CoP and Black Feather

 

mind you that build nowadays revolves on skills, not stat;

Ignition break- Bowling bash- Brandish Spear RK

Brandih Spear- Hundred Spear RK

Dragon Breath RK

Ignition break- Critical RK

 

with black feather, you dont need to switch CoP - CVB back and forth


Edited by Essmikayl, 10 September 2022 - 04:08 AM.

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Posted 10 September 2022 - 04:28 AM

black feather have sp/kill, CoP do not
you can put extra hit and dex from black feather to vit/stat of ur liking
the bonus dex from black feather already cover the variable casting delay from cop

 

no, black ribbon is for ignition break RK, is not linked in any way to stat. its not odd build, its the entry-level meta for ignition break. maybe you're seeing the wrong item? black ribbon does not have any link to agi, its per str

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you can be str(optimal)/agi/vit/luk/dex whatever RK and use black ribbon if the skill you're using is ignition break.

 

no im not agi RK, im physical RK

and trust me i have tried all the possible combination and tried all physical RK equipment, including CoP and Black Feather

 

mind you that build nowadays revolves on skills, not stat;

Ignition break- Bowling bash- Brandish Spear RK

Brandih Spear- Hundred Spear RK

Dragon Breath RK

Ignition break- Critical RK

 

with black feather, you dont need to switch CoP - CVB back and forth

 

For every str, thought the source I found said agi, oh well.

 

 

Yes, but I don't plan on using ignition break, I'm more of a Brandish Spear, Hundred spear, and spear Dynamo type of person.


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Posted 10 September 2022 - 04:54 AM

For every str, thought the source I found said agi, oh well.

 

 

Yes, but I don't plan on using ignition break, I'm more of a Brandish Spear, Hundred spear, and spear Dynamo type of person.

Yeah, i would recommend black feather over circlet of phoenix for overall leveling and sustainability

for damage, i would recommend goral crown or stripe hat

though stripe hat will have 0.2s FCT reduce for brandish casting, better in my opinion.
these are the option that is better than Circlet of phoenix


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Posted 10 September 2022 - 06:08 AM

Yeah, i would recommend black feather over circlet of phoenix for overall leveling and sustainability

for damage, i would recommend goral crown or stripe hat

though stripe hat will have 0.2s FCT reduce for brandish casting, better in my opinion.
these are the option that is better than Circlet of phoenix

 

 

I still don't see how Black Feather is a better option, but the Goral Crown on the otherhand would work, atk increases, and +10 damage to all sizes is easily better then the bypass 100% Hard Def(hell even if it was all DEF, the Goral Crown will still do more damage against most monsters). The option to use the Argen Blanco is a mixed bag of a option, but still is a damn nice option to have(the sheer power of a +11 one will make it worth it to just carry a ton of endow scrolls, and put like 2x Bloody Knight cards in it).


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Posted 10 September 2022 - 06:23 AM

I still don't see how Black Feather is a better option, but the Goral Crown on the otherhand would work, atk increases, and +10 damage to all sizes is easily better then the bypass 100% Hard Def(hell even if it was all DEF, the Goral Crown will still do more damage against most monsters). The option to use the Argen Blanco is a mixed bag of a option, but still is a damn nice option to have(the sheer power of a +11 one will make it worth it to just carry a ton of endow scrolls, and put like 2x Bloody Knight cards in it).

black feather vs circlet of phoenix

mdef = same

bypass def = same

VCT = higher, because 10dex give higher than 10% basically

SP recovery = 50 SP/kill, circlet of phoenix have none

Hit = +50, circlet of phoenix have none

 

mind you argen blanco doesnt exist yet, so striped hat is still better, and stripe hat provide 0.2s FCT reduction to help spam brandish.

 

also, you might need the bypass def more than the ranged/size damage depends on the monster. such as 150++ illusion turtle dungeon, you will need 100% bypass more.


Edited by Essmikayl, 10 September 2022 - 06:27 AM.

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Posted 10 September 2022 - 06:34 AM

black feather vs circlet of phoenix

mdef = same

bypass def = same

VCT = higher, because 10dex give higher than 10% basically

SP recovery = 50 SP/kill, circlet of phoenix have none

Hit = +50, circlet of phoenix have none

 

mind you argen blanco doesnt exist yet, so striped hat is still better, and stripe hat provide 0.2s FCT reduction to help spam brandish.

 

 

Woops I missread the SP regen on that my bad(Devine Pride's structure of how they list the effects, is rather messy to say the least) I really wish they laid it out like ROwiki orrenewal.playragnarok.com databases

 

Oh ok, wonder when that will come out


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