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#1 larry58

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Posted 27 February 2023 - 05:48 AM

Hey guys returning pre renewal player here. So does damage increasing cards towards elemental; such as Santa Poring card +20% damage to Shadow element, adds to DB damage? By the wiki it does but.....

 

I tried quad santa poring card main gauche compared to a hunting spear vs raydric and the damage only differs <1k. What gives?

 

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Posted 27 February 2023 - 07:13 AM

By the wiki it does NOT


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Posted 27 February 2023 - 09:00 AM

Those items increase your atk power by 20% (or 15 for size, 25 for AK and so on). DB does not use your atk stat to calculate damage, so those do not affect it.

What can increase the skill's damage is ranged damage modifiers, skill damage% of the skill itself, and a higher HP/SP pool


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Posted 27 February 2023 - 01:34 PM

Those items increase your atk power by 20% (or 15 for size, 25 for AK and so on). DB does not use your atk stat to calculate damage, so those do not affect it.

What can increase the skill's damage is ranged damage modifiers, skill damage% of the skill itself, and a higher HP/SP pool

 

Also, element property damage modifier, NOT magical, can improve the damage. 


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Posted 01 March 2023 - 04:24 PM

Also, element property damage modifier, NOT magical, can improve the damage. 

 

Thats what i was aiming for. Element property damage cards compunded on weapons dont add DB damage then because its not skill attack?


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Posted 02 March 2023 - 12:52 PM

Thats what i was aiming for. Element property damage cards compunded on weapons dont add DB damage then because its not skill attack?

 

I cannot find a card is adding physical damage on fire property.

 

which card are you referring to.


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Posted 02 March 2023 - 02:31 PM

I cannot find a card is adding physical damage on fire property.

 

which card are you referring to.

By Element (weapon), Physical

The following cards add 20% damage of physical attacks against the element it targets.

Element Card Prefix or Suffix Fire Vadon Card Flammable Water Drainliar Card Saharic Wind Mandragora Card Windy Earth Kaho Card Underneath Holy Orc Skeleton Card Damned Shadow Santa Poring Card Hallowed Poison Anacondaq Card Envenom Ghost Mao Guai Card of Exorcism Undead Scorpion King Card (Currently unavailable in iRO) Divine
 

How come having these 4x cards slotted on weapons dont add DB damage?

 

DB formula

Damage = {[(CurrHP ÷ 50) + (MaxSP ÷ 4)] × (SkillLv × BaseLv ÷ 100) × (90 + DragonTraining_Lv × 10)% - (Hard Defense + Soft Defense)} × (100 + Ranged Damage Modifiers)% x (100 - Demi-Human Reductions)% x (100 + Skill Damage Modifiers)% x (Elemental Modifiers)%

 

Elemental Modifier here only for Fire, Water, Holy and Ghost breaths?


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Posted 03 March 2023 - 01:25 AM

Those are all cards that increase your atk.

The "Element Modifiers" referred to in the skill formula is the advantages/disadvantages based on the elemental table of your damage's vs monster's element.


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Posted 06 March 2023 - 09:38 AM

By Element (weapon), Physical

The following cards add 20% damage of physical attacks against the element it targets.

Element Card Prefix or Suffix Fire Vadon Card Flammable Water Drainliar Card Saharic Wind Mandragora Card Windy Earth Kaho Card Underneath Holy Orc Skeleton Card Damned Shadow Santa Poring Card Hallowed Poison Anacondaq Card Envenom Ghost Mao Guai Card of Exorcism Undead Scorpion King Card (Currently unavailable in iRO) Divine
 

How come having these 4x cards slotted on weapons dont add DB damage?

 

DB formula

Damage = {[(CurrHP ÷ 50) + (MaxSP ÷ 4)] × (SkillLv × BaseLv ÷ 100) × (90 + DragonTraining_Lv × 10)% - (Hard Defense + Soft Defense)} × (100 + Ranged Damage Modifiers)% x (100 - Demi-Human Reductions)% x (100 + Skill Damage Modifiers)% x (Elemental Modifiers)%

 

Elemental Modifier here only for Fire, Water, Holy and Ghost breaths?

 

 

I am not sure if there is a card to help fire/water/holy, whatever, property Physical damage. 

 

But I am referring to skill Volcano for the element damage increase. I think that skill works for DB damage. 


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Posted 06 March 2023 - 01:32 PM

that's because sage elemental fields directly change the values of elemental advantages as per element x element tables


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Posted 07 March 2023 - 04:36 PM

i see. Somebody revise the wiki into 

 

DB formula

Damage = {[(CurrHP ÷ 50) + (MaxSP ÷ 4)] × (SkillLv × BaseLv ÷ 100) × (90 + DragonTraining_Lv × 10)% - (Hard Defense + Soft Defense)} × (100 + Ranged Damage Modifiers)% x (100 - Demi-Human Reductions)% x (100 + Skill Damage Modifiers)% x ( ENEMY Elemental Modifiers)%

 


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