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[kieu21]

It's balanced compared to the other classes at the moment, but seriously? you are like crying/complaining about scout getting a defense skill? Katar has a def down, champion has a def down, mage has a def down, knight has one, Why shouldn't we have one?

why should every classs have the same skill? certain class r design for doing certain things, i have a raider, why cant i have more stun skill like every other class? i have 2 stun, 1 at 70% and the other is at 30% and like that never worked for me during war. im not hating on your suggestion, im just implying that every class is suppose to be different.

if anything, i think champ should have no defend down skill.

Edited by kieu21, 14 April 2011 - 01:21 PM.

[iBryan]

why should every classs have the same skill? certain class r design for doing certain things, i have a raider, why cant i have more stun skill like every other class? i have 2 stun, 1 at 70% and the other is at 30% and like that never worked for me during war. im not hating on your suggestion, im just implying that every class is suppose to be different.

Yes every class is suppose to be different, but when it comes to a offensive type of class not being able to damage or take down another class it's ridicolous. You might as well make scout a cleric too, and don't even bring up katar in this situation cause you have 2 stuns,1 burn, def down, stealth, cloak, acc down, 3 knives(Good magic attacks) and a plasma falcon that inflicts good damage to champion, i play katar my self at a high level so i would know. That's why when i look at scout it's just useless if they're going to make certain classes not killable whats the point? A scout can't kill a champion or knight. Wanna know what happens then? People go on a suggestion thread and suggest on how to make it fair before its too late and they quit and play once again one of the most populated classes due to the lack of power or the power it already has.

Edited by iBryan, 14 April 2011 - 01:25 PM.

[kieu21]

Yes every class is suppose to be different, but when it comes to a offensive type of class not being able to damage or take down another class it's ridicolous. You might as well make scout a cleric too, and don't even bring up katar in this situation cause you have 2 stuns,1 burn, def down, stealth, cloak, acc down, 3 knives(Good magic attacks) and a plasma falcon that inflicts good damage to champion, i play katar my self at a high level so i would know. That's why when i look at scout it's just useless if they're going to make certain classes not killable whats the point? A scout can't kill a champion or knight. Wanna know what happens then? People go on a suggestion thread and suggest on how to make it fair before its too late and they quit and play once again one of the most populated classes due to the lack of power or the power it already has.

haha? im not going to argue with you because this suggestion wont even come close to the GMs to do list. 2 stun, 1 that doesnt work more than half the time. stealth that gets unstealth by all class, 3 knife that i cant afford SP for because i used it on self buff for higher AP and crit and stealth and passive. i dont see your point. you have might have a great raider but scout is good for their snipping. thats their biggest advantage.


in a 1v1 battle, more than half the class cant kill soldier class. in an all out war, scout r great at sniping.

Edited by kieu21, 14 April 2011 - 01:30 PM.

[iBryan]

haha? im not going to argue with you because this suggestion wont even come close to the GMs to do list. 2 stun, 1 that doesnt work more than half the time. stealth that gets unstealth by all class, 3 knife that i cant afford SP for because i used it on self buff for higher AP and crit and stealth and passive. i dont see your point. you have might have a great raider but scout is good for their snipping. thats their biggest advantage.

Good at sniping, but when a defense target comes by how will you shoot him down? it's an offensive class it should be able to kill any class, i mean sure one class or some people will be harder to kill. But completely not being able to kill a class that's ridicolous don't you think?

[kieu21]

im sorry, did you say kill any class? hahah. they can kill raider/dealer/muse equally. is that not good enough?

Edited by kieu21, 14 April 2011 - 01:33 PM.

[iBryan]

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And you're complaining about me suggesting one single skill? How about you give me a break and if you don't like the suggestion just move on to another one. Obviously you don't play scout at all so you wouldn't know a damn thing about what i'm talking about so go find another suggestion/proposal thread that fits you or is speaking about the class you play that way you actually look smart on what you're saying. That's all you guys do come on threads that are on a "Proposal/suggestion" thread and try and flame it with useless comments.



Yeah we can kill those classes you mentioned perhaps, so why shouldn't we be able to effect champions/knights? Oh yeah lets limit scout to specific classes.... it's always suppose to be depending on the player you're fighting not depending on the class buddy.

Edited by iBryan, 14 April 2011 - 01:36 PM.

[kieu21]

i think somebody is angry 0_o cuz their ideas is being shot down. sure, give it to them. give the scout a new skill. while ur at it, give every other class a new skill to balance it or make it fair. your right.

[iBryan]

i think somebody is angry 0_o cuz their ideas is being shot down. sure, give it to them. give the scout a new skill. while ur at it, give every other class a new skill to balance it or make it fair. your right.

Angry? it's my proposal thread i gotta reply right? it's sad how you're complaining about how a scout shouldn't have a defense down skill, cause omg its going to be OP lmao
Obviously if this skill was implemented it would be with the Balancing update, along with all classes being adjusted. This is a suggestion on the scout's side. If you're not looking to argue why are you still on this thread replying it's obvious your only purpose here is to flame if you're bored go find something to do in life. The game is already the entertainment if this entertains you then im sorry bro

If it makes you feel better you can make your own thread and post all your useless stuff there xD

Im sorry for replying and backing up my own thread

Edited by iBryan, 14 April 2011 - 01:46 PM.

[DoubleRose]

they already have phoenix arrow. that move has a really fast cool down and crazy high power. It is actually their best damaging move, so you must be playing socut wrong.

[iBryan]

they already have phoenix arrow. that move has a really fast cool down and crazy high power. It is actually their best damaging move, so you must be playing socut wrong.

The damage you do on phoenix arrow is restored by a goulash, its a magic skill yes thats why it does good damage to champions/knights but what about the rest, you're gonna be hitting them for about 10mins+ straight you won't get anywhere without someone helping kill the person.
There's nothing wrong with a defense down it's not like we're going to have a 100% def down it just a little portion of the person's defense that way scouts can be able to damage decently without depending on one skill, that def down would boost the chances.


Offensive classes shouldn't be limited to other classes, you should be limited depending on the player.

Edited by iBryan, 14 April 2011 - 02:01 PM.

[DoubleRose]

The damage you do on phoenix arrow is restored by a goulash, its a magic skill yes thats why it does good damage to champions/knights but what about the rest, you're gonna be hitting them for about 10mins+ straight you won't get anywhere without someone helping kill the person.

you could also poison arrow and slow arrow them, or try goulash yourself. I don't see why all classes should be the same. I do agree soldier armor gives too high of defense and they have too many defense passives, but that isn't the real solution. Scouts just don't have high enough attack, m-speed, dodge, defense, or a-speed. they are just under average in everything and kind of good dodge. and with a full dodge dual raider I can tell you, those champs hit HARD and accurately on a 6k def 4k dodge player. that's why I don't pvp with scouts.

[iBryan]

Yeah, it seems that none of the skills can take down a champion on a scout. The defense is way too high, the HP is extremely high as well. All classes shouldn't be the same but you know you shouldn't be limited to a specific class. What's the point on gearing up nicely, and getting these nice stats if there's one specific class that you can't damage? Only thing scouts can do is skill, eventually you'll get stuck in animation or just end up being stunned/muted by champions what will you do then? Because melee on a scout against a champ does about 600s-900s which can be restored easily with one goulash, you will just be wasting your arrows. that's why im suggesting the def down skill that way we can effect them with melee not depend on skill spamming all the time.

[littlekami]

scouts have high ranged atk´s...

tip for pvp a champ with a scout....HOLD UR DISTANCE...then u win easy...hit and run are the mystic keys to play a pvp scout.

[iBryan]

scouts have high ranged atk´s...

tip for pvp a champ with a scout....HOLD UR DISTANCE...then u win easy...hit and run are the mystic keys to play a pvp scout.

That's pvp, what will you do when theyre allowed to use pots/goulash? cause kiting doesnt work that well against a champ thats using pots and chiv(10+) gear

[DestinyDeoxys]

scouts have high ranged atk´s...

tip for pvp a champ with a scout....HOLD UR DISTANCE...then u win easy...hit and run are the mystic keys to play a pvp scout.

Kiting doesn't work anymore since Orlo chapter 1 patch, it makes PvP absolutely boring, it's all about spamming skills and foods, the relative importance of cloaking/camouflage/stealth become much less. Those assault tactics doesn't work anymore, yet ppl still complain about having no decloak skills...

[Callmedude]

kieu21 perhaps you need to create scout and try it on your own

i wear full ap set and i still do ridiculous damage on knight/champ..with +15 weapon too

600 dmg to 900 dmg? lol..its totally absurd..
Only phoenix arrow can do near 2k on them..and the rest of the skill's dmg just like rubbish..

Adding passive defense down skill isn't make scout overpowered at all..You should try to view it on other way..Don't just view it on your sight..

[yeoldknight]

Change all scout skills to magic attack and leave melee as physical attack, problem solved.

Mmm.. Fail, that would make them far too overpowered against solder class. :I

[Gojio]

why should every classs have the same skill? certain class r design for doing certain things, i have a raider, why cant i have more stun skill like every other class? i have 2 stun, 1 at 75% and the other is at 45% and like that never worked for me during war. im not hating on your suggestion, im just implying that every class is suppose to be different.

if anything, i think champ should have no defend down skill.

Corrected.

On topic, I'm seeing so many dramatic posts, a def down skill wouldn't hurt at all honestly, be it a 20% debuff. It'd be fine.

[iBryan]

Yeah it wouldn't hurt this guy just loves flaming he doesn't know crap about the game, he never played a scout he doesn't know what he's talking about.