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#1 GhostShadow

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Posted 12 April 2011 - 08:25 AM

I'll start off with Safety Ring.
Now it is +5Mdef +5Defence,kind of weak IMO, if you could make it +10 Mdef + 20Defence that would be more like it, for the equips that are out now;
Make them slot-able too, no harm in that, since they have level 40 restriction seems ok to buff it up a bit.

Since this is kind of a wish list, I expect people not to crap on others Ideas, after all its really up to the GMs and developers what will be balanced in terms of OP so.
Only post if you have an Idea for buffing an old equip, please & thanks.

Edited by GhostShadow, 12 April 2011 - 08:28 AM.

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#2 Cylon

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Posted 12 April 2011 - 09:01 AM

How bout giving lvl 1 & 2 weapons additional bonus atk to lower level chars, something like 'atk + 20 if the char is base level 50 or lower'.
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 09:07 AM

I think they should give VVS weapons the guarantee of doing damage (~20?) like they used to have.
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 10:27 AM

I think they should give VVS weapons the guarantee of doing damage (~20?) like they used to have.


I agree. Whatever happened to that? o_O
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 12:09 PM

I think they should give VVS weapons the guarantee of doing damage (~20?) like they used to have.

This. I miss the good old seeking damage with the VVS weapons.
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 03:26 PM

Forging smith is a dead build... if they fixed forging they would have to edit mechanics 50job rate to be higher the mastersmith 70job rate, they would have to introduce new weapons, make up for elemental damage changes.... Big job for something that can be swept under the carpet...
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 03:43 PM

sword guardian card needs to work on all weapons
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 04:49 PM

Any +/-defense items that were not updated with the renewal update.
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 05:16 PM

sword guardian card needs to work on all weapons


Descriptions should also come in pink huge letters, mabby then people would read then.
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 05:39 PM

Lacryma stick should be updated to work with Jack Frost/Diamond Dust
Divine Cross should be updated to work with Judex, Adoramus
Update Ifrit ears to work with also Crimson Rock and Hell Inferno.

Just a couple things I can think of for now ^_^

Edited by Trixdee, 22 April 2011 - 06:11 PM.

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Posted 12 April 2011 - 06:22 PM

lolol'd at Droyd.

I'd like to see hydra and all the +20%/20%/15% damage vs race/element/size buffed up seeing as how they're hardly used in comparison to level 4 weapons. Not to the point that everyone would go back to using level 1 weapons, but at least so that they'd make card combination in weapons more emphasized than just a flat beefy weapon.

I'd also like the status resistance cards bumped up from 20% -> 30/40% since the status penalty just screws over status resistances, and that 100% of some status resistance is still not 100%.
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 06:51 PM

sword guardian card needs to work on all weapons


I'm wondering how many millions have u thrown to the thrash? :P
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 06:56 PM

All five of the Monk weapons that were introduced to the game right before Renewal was implemented and turned them into the weapons that they would've replaced. I speak of the Combo Battle Glove and the Electric/Magma/Icicle/Seismic Fists; seriously, I do more damage with an NPC Stunner EVEN AFTER the Endow triggers. :P
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 08:03 PM

yeah my +9 electric cannot be sold now >.<
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 11:12 PM

how about just fix the mvp cards that are resistant to resist third class skills that gives statuses... aka esl- stops the chaos from chaos panic etc
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 11:17 PM

suggestions for changes in game mechanics? not gonna happen..
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 12:48 AM

~Bumping the thread~

Anybody ever seen a Woood Goblin or Les ,Baba Yaga, Uzhas or Mavka Card? i never seen them in game ever..since i start playing RO

Edited by Dukeares, 13 April 2011 - 12:49 AM.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 03:01 AM

sword guardian card needs to work on all weapons

Why? Because you don't know how to read?
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 04:06 PM

Here are a list of cards (and combos) that add/remove Def and/or MDef. They really should get updated to fit in with the new system.

Agav
Alicel
Ambernite
Arclouze
Argiope
Argos
Cat'o Nine Tails
Coco
Cornutus
Detardeurus
Dokebi
Evil Druid
Executioner
Frus
Ghoul
Gibbet
Goat
High Orc
Ice Titan
Kappa
Martin
Megalith
Megalodon
Memory of Thanatos
Mineral
Munak
Mysteltainn
Ogretooth
Parasite
Pasana
Porcellio
Sandman
Seeker
Solider
Stainer
Stalactic Golem
Steel Chonchon
Sting
Sword Fish
Tamruan
Tao Gunka
Vocal
Wooden Golem
Wootan Fighter
Wootan Shooter

Grand Peco + Pecopeco
Alarm + Clock + Punk
Archdam + Permeter + Heater + Freezer
Evil Nymph + Parasite + Loli Ruri + Harpy + Miyabi Doll + Bloody Butterfly

I'm not sure if I have them all, but hopefully this list has most of the cards in it.
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 11:17 PM

Hell even the KAFRA SHOP HEADGEARS need a revamp >>
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 04:39 AM

Meh. BGs weps need to be updated. Any of the classes that typically had low ATK weapons (like bows, whips, guitars, knuckles) are useless after renewal even next to NPC weapons, despite their large and very narrow +% vs demi human buffs. Base atk on these weapons all need to be updated. For example Brave Lariat being 45 atk or whatever is useless even with +95% damage, as that just makes 87 ATK; NPC weapons can beat that and work on all enemies not just demi humans :blink:. Base ATK really has to be like 110 to make it even comparable to queen's whip. There are many examples like this, particularly bows & knuckles like I said. The Self-endow knuckles mentioned above were actually pretty good before renewal, and now suck. They need to have like 125 ATK to stay competitive.
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 05:14 AM

I'd like the magni set and the goibne set to get a facelift. The defense bonus they give is pretty sad now.
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 11:10 PM

I think they should give VVS weapons the guarantee of doing damage (~20?) like they used to have.

They should give 3rd job smiths ability to slot ele weapons IMO
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Posted 15 April 2011 - 09:47 AM

Meh. BGs weps need to be updated. Any of the classes that typically had low ATK weapons (like bows, whips, guitars, knuckles) are useless after renewal even next to NPC weapons, despite their large and very narrow +% vs demi human buffs. Base atk on these weapons all need to be updated. For example Brave Lariat being 45 atk or whatever is useless even with +95% damage, as that just makes 87 ATK; NPC weapons can beat that and work on all enemies not just demi humans :blink:. Base ATK really has to be like 110 to make it even comparable to queen's whip. There are many examples like this, particularly bows & knuckles like I said. The Self-endow knuckles mentioned above were actually pretty good before renewal, and now suck. They need to have like 125 ATK to stay competitive.


Good idea but kro will probably just make new bg weapons instead of update the old ones, to make ppl work for new stuff.
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#25 Kadelia

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 09:48 AM

Here are a list of cards (and combos) that add/remove Def and/or MDef. They really should get updated to fit in with the new system.

Agav
Alicel
Ambernite
Arclouze
Argiope
Argos
Cat'o Nine Tails
Coco
Cornutus
Detardeurus
Dokebi
Evil Druid
Executioner
Frus
Ghoul
Gibbet
Goat
High Orc
Ice Titan
Kappa
Martin
Megalith
Megalodon
Memory of Thanatos
Mineral
Munak
Mysteltainn
Ogretooth
Parasite
Pasana
Porcellio
Sandman
Seeker
Solider
Stainer
Stalactic Golem
Steel Chonchon
Sting
Sword Fish
Tamruan
Tao Gunka
Vocal
Wooden Golem
Wootan Fighter
Wootan Shooter

Grand Peco + Pecopeco
Alarm + Clock + Punk
Archdam + Permeter + Heater + Freezer
Evil Nymph + Parasite + Loli Ruri + Harpy + Miyabi Doll + Bloody Butterfly

I'm not sure if I have them all, but hopefully this list has most of the cards in it.


We really should make a list of items that need to be updated to match renewal mechanics . . .

[ Name ] [ Current ATK ] -> [ Proposed ATK ]
Brave Assassin's Damascus 120 -> 145
Brave Assaulter's Katzbalger 200 -> 230
Brave Battle Crossbow 100 -> 160
Brave Battle Fist 30 -> 125
Brave Battle Lariat 50 -> 130
Brave Battle Strategy Book 90 -> 140
Brave Battlefield Guitar 50 -> 130
Brave Battlefield Morning Star 110 -> 155
Brave Carnage Katar 130 -> 175
Brave Gladiator Blade 115 -> 162
Brave Huuma Front Shuriken 55 -> 133
Brave Insane Battle Axe 210 -> 230

Glorious Apocalypse 90 -> 130
Glorious Claw 30 -> 125
Glorious Gatling Gun 90 -> 175
Glorious Gladius 120 -> 145
Glorious Guitar 50 -> 130
Glorious Hunter Bow 100 -> 160
Glorious Lariat 50 -> 130
Glorious Pistol 80 -> 135
Glorious Rifle 90 -> 150
Glorious Shotgun 110 ->
Glorious Shuriken 55 -> 133
Glorious Tablet 90 -> 140

Edited by Jaye, 21 April 2011 - 10:05 AM.

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