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#1 wizzdome1

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Posted 12 April 2011 - 05:48 PM

Ok here is my two cents...

1) Dead Branches-

People seem to love playing with dead branches and this has caused me to lose loads of experience at the cost of someone's mischief I just want to hang out with friends and not have to worry about someone summoning some mvp class monster in a map full of players... Personally I think there should be a designated arena for this type of activity... just as when db used to be allowed in town till all the dying merchants complained... or perhaps do away with db completely as it seems to be a good way to pick on and bully other lower level characters who come to the area looking to party and find help in south Prontera...(or at least make it so summoned monsters won't cost exp and if they didn't give exp maybe people wouldn't use them at all)

2) The Bulk Buying Skill-

OK I like the skill as it helps people make a bit more money than selling to npc and gives players with the skill opportunity to choose how much they would pay for an item... The problem I have had with this skill is... If you get disconnected your shop closes and you lose the ticket you just spent to open the shop there should be some sort of fallback to where if you have an open shop and are disconnected that shop is automatically reopened when you connect so that you do not lose your skill (would be no different then being disconnected with buffs and still have them when reconnecting)

3) Priests-

Some Priest work real hard and spend so much time leaching off others who are generous enough to share their exp. In this I would like to say I think that it would be fair to offer Priests experience for healing players and even more for resurecting them... and the skill Redemptio should not cost them exp. because it is a sacrifice... their job is to serve as Gods Helpers should they not be given exp for doing their JOB???

4) Alchemist Idea-

I just thought it would be a fun Idea to make a Homunculus arena to where alchemist could test their Homunculus in a HVH (hom vs hom)

5) Merchants-

In town it is so hard to walk through and even shop because merchants are all over the road... make the roads off limits to opening shops or chats vend only on sidewalk or out of town would make the cities look more professional and so much nicer...

(wrap up)
Well That was my two cents I welcome feedback... and if this is posted in the wrong spot sorry it wouldn't allow me to post anywhere else

Edited by wizzdome1, 12 April 2011 - 05:52 PM.

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Posted 12 April 2011 - 06:05 PM

1) rubbish, I don't use DBs and I don't even complain, if you are so concerned about exp then u win be hanging out with your friends but be training instead. Anyway, if you die to a DB monster you are low lvl and you can get the exp back easily
2) that is indeed a sad issue but I think it us ok the way it is, if anything needs changing, it would be ur internet connection, or else the religion and open buy shop thing may be abused in one way or another, I can feel it
3) agrees totally and to the max for this! Even if I'm not a priest I think they should get EXP for their healing!
4) you can already do that in PVP but just that u have to make sure you and ur opponent do not move or get killer by others, correct me if I'm wrong
5) restricting the space is nice but has it's pros and cons. It is easier for spam bots
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 06:13 PM

My 2 cents, because I'm bored.

1) Dead Branches-

I have always had the view the DBs/BBs/Polymorphing shouldn't be allowed on leveling maps or maps where lower level people go. They tried the BB arena, which they said didn't work so they just scrapped it. I don't believe anything will ever be done about this, but if a lower lvl person is trying to walk to Prontera, they should have safe passage. I've seen a lot of new people quit because they couldn't go anywhere at the time without getting slaughtered by MVPs.

2) The Bulk Buying Skill-

They cost 200z... Deal with it :P

3) Priests-

I think they should figure out a way to give everyone that's doing something experience in an event like titans, not just the AoE killer, but that would take a whole lot of planning and then leeching comes into play and blah blah blah. If you're a priest and want exp for healing, you need a shared party, simple as that.

4) Alchemist Idea-

I like the idea of HvH. I don't see it being very popular, but they have tons of arenas already, what's one more?

5) Merchants-

This is a non issue in my opinion. Seriously? :P It's not that hard to walk through town. Take the back roads if you can't find a way to click without hitting a shop.

Edited by ABK1986, 12 April 2011 - 06:15 PM.

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#4 wizzdome1

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Posted 12 April 2011 - 06:33 PM

I understand what you mean... though i don't think saying that ("your low level") is a very fair assumption as I lost 60% Exp as a level 94 priestess trying to find a good leveling party with active people outside of prontera where out of the blue people think it is funny to summon monsters till everyone is dead from something they themselves cant kill...
I can see your point about the bulk buy maybe you are right but it is frustrating to walk away from the keyboard and come back to see you have been disconnected from server... its not my wireless connection either cause it is the only time i have been disconnected is when i was using this skill... which i find a little funny... anyhow yeah they dont cost much so i guess its either put up or shut up about that lol...
I also get so tired of people asking for warps here and there wish there were more people who would give bgem for warp greedy leachers lol... I think priest put in much more than they get back i find myself constantly using bgem to pick up the scraps of dead people south of prontera but I am just nice at nature I get thanks and that should be enough but hell is a bgem too much to ask for having a priest do something for you???
The city streets I dont know maybe i am just ocd i love to walk the streets after maint when no-one has logged in yet no lag no problems moving so nice maybe i am just OCD about it but there really is nothing that is going to stop the spam bots even if banning the word (www) they would find a way around it... Just think it would look nice is all...
HVH might not be so popular just thought it would be fun =D thanks for the feedback though I do enjoy knowing that people are even paying attention...
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 08:50 PM

1. I agree with a DB arena. TBH my maestro got killed by an eremes guile that popped from nowhere because he was cloaking while I was walking from izlude to pront

2. 200z is not bad. so this is fine as is

3. if this gets implemented, it is abusable... somebody can just make a healer and tadda! 150 AB!

4. a HvH arena would be nice but then, it will only affect 1 class. if ExDarkrb says its doable to battle homunucli in PvP then maybe we can arrange a common knowledge in one spot of the PvP maps to be HvH that no-_- is allowed to touch the alches battling around that spot. Alberta ship perhaps?

5. what we have now is just fine. just use /sh so that you wont open a shop unless double clicked.
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 02:21 AM

1) In a way that is training. If you lost 1% on a 94 priest i would say that experience should have taught you to tele or bwing or stop going back there xx times to die.

3) The min you get exp for healing and ressing, i will be spamming heal to level and dying on alts and ressing them.
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 10:12 AM

1) I personally don't think it's an issue on open field maps, dungeons is another thing. If you lost 60% dying over and over again, looking for people to party with on a map that has an average level of somewhere around 10, I think you should probably search elsewhere.

2)like everyone said 200z is nothing, non-issue IMO.

3)I think there is a boatload of complaints about the party system, and how priests are pretty useless, you should poke around there and give some ideas! And let's be honest if classes got exp for doing their job soul linkers would be the best leech class ever as you could stay in town and 99.

4)HvM - I can see the mike vick jokes already.

5)Would you rather have no merchants selling, or a street full of them? That seems to be a personal complaint not so much a better for everyone suggestion.

6) My 2 cents on your 2 cents - I can see you clearly were bored lol.
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 10:22 AM

60%? Really? That... is pretty much your own fault.
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 01:54 PM

1) In a way that is training. If you lost 1% on a 94 priest i would say that experience should have taught you to tele or bwing or stop going back there xx times to die.


3% exp loss at lvl 130+ isnt nice at all. i have to grind several hours just to get it back.
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 03:49 PM

Db area is called southprontera... (otherwise people can summon them where everythey wish, they arnt free)

The reasons its an item and you have to pay for it, usable by all classes...

Agi priest... Even Share... Its a priest be patient GOD WILL and all

4-5 this isnt a private sever... you can put a shop where ever you want, and alchemist have enough "special ability's" they dont need their own arena, they need to fix BG/KVM anyways
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 06:15 PM

hm vs hm.....there is a good chance for a pokemon reference but ill let it slide this time i seen enough alchemist "pokemone battles" vids on youtube lol.
DBs...surre they are satanic, butit wouldnt be RO if there wasnt @#$@#%@54 dbing people in the middle of a conversation, besides there is a area for the BBs already just go to geffen and talk to the sage dude by the tower. i guess dbs are allowed there too.

as everyone said about the merch buying stalls. its 200z thats like 4 red potions (btw i didnt know any class can use em, since i only see merch classes setting up those buying stalls then one day i saw a sura then though " wow..." i dont need em, been through the whole game without it even before it was implimented, i dont even know whereto get em, yet it is a good way for noobs to make money just farm the maneater blossoms lolz. just 1 will give u 2 stall thingies (default price is 500z per maneater...still dont know where to get those paper thingies so lol)

priest exp subject: throw that idea in the trash please...i can think of 16 ways to abuse it off the top of my head. for example a priest will mass db then run to pront. let everyone die then come back to ress em all for exp. which will make the db issues even worse. we have enough lazy @@!@$# here anyways dont need them causing chaos for short cuts. >.<

merchants in the way? they had a way of fixing that....dbing merchants to make it cleaner..but they stop that and removed that ability so u cant clean the streets by dbing merchats in pront (i guess 68% of them are bots anyways...how else these lvl 12-20 merchants get all these rare items and gears..duh. although some of us actually WORK FOR OUR CRAP and sell it. DEATh TO THE BOTS >.< ROAST THEM IN THE INFERNO!!!) although the putting on side walks is a good idea...but gms dont want offical prontera to look like pserver prontera. my suggestion is removing the vending ability entirely from pront...but then they will move to another town like payon or alberta ya know the ghost towns no one go to for anything. so remove vending from all towns and south prontera lol and instead re impliment the auction house...ive seen the buuilding its pretty nice and also u can add WAY MORE ITEMS than the cart in the auction house. ^_^ just remove the fee for using it and all will be clean in the town of prontera...not abunch of merchas squish together looking like a roach's nest..if for those that seen one u know what it looks like *vomits* Q_Q
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 07:03 PM

You can't seem to use DBs in dungeons anymore, like Ant Hell. If anything, DBs need a buff. Either that, or my DBs were glitched
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 07:21 PM

yea cant db towns and dungeons. perhaps they listened to our suffering lol.
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 08:33 PM

but gms dont want offical prontera to look like pserver prontera.

the server ALREADY have many things that originated from private servers.
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 08:49 PM

obviously..alot of things but the methods on bot prevention -.-
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 08:56 PM

Digimonic spoke crap and selfish comments in the first 70% of his post. The last argument is the only one that made sense
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 09:11 PM

Don't really like any of the ideas. Who would really even participate in a HvH arena. Maybe 10 people the first day.
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 10:53 PM

South Prontera has always been the "traditional" DBing area. You learn this very early on in the game. Part of knowing how to level and preserving your exp is learning how to use FWings or Teleport to get away from a blood thirsty mob that you can't handle. I can understand if you're a low level character dying to an Eremes or a Bow Guardian though....But it's no excuse if you're going back over and over again to die several more times.

Also, what kinda person at lv130 would die to DB's? Frankly, how does anyone 90+ die to DB's? Are you simply standing there dumbfounded and staring at the DB's waiting for them to kill you? It's a general rule that if you have experience don't AFK out in South Prontera.


The moment merchants are restricted from using the street for vending purposes is the moment we see fewer guildspot space alongside the sidewalks/alleys. That and we'd more than likely see cluttered shops blocking our view of NPC's pop up more often.
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 11:16 PM

well all the more reason to re impliment the auction house...so the whole town can be visible as nature intended. also may have a prime guild spot by the upgrade shop. since thats where a huge chunk of the shops arelocated (the center...near the fountain. you know the place)
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 11:20 PM

1] If you cant handle S.Pront then don go there.
If you need a party then: a] Don't open a chat and AFK. People will DB people that AFK there, heck even i do. S.Pront is no AFK spot. b] use the booking system.

2]Thats a problem.. cant be helped =/

3]Abusable.

4]Good idea.

5] No wonder Pront is the capital of Rune Midgard. If you wanna walk through town without opening any shops then just click and hold while walking... Don't click-walk.. if you know what i mean..
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