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[Zeveror]

Hello everyone, last time I played iRO was back when transcendent classes were first released, so well there's been a lot of changes since then. Just came back to RO yesterday and currently have a lvl 20 thief(future gank rogue, for money making purposes unless someone has a better suggestion). Im here because I have a few questions and im going to list them below:

1) Im making a gank rogue, which is dagger hence requires str. But a lot of places on forums that ive read say that str is bad after renewal? Could someone please give me a run down on this and how renewal changed stats?

2) I'm gonna regret asking this one but...currently my thief is lv 20 and i absolutely have like barely any zeny, anyone know where i could make a little bit of zeny at my level(maybe like 20k worth?)...selling all the items i pick up currently isnt cutting it, need like 20k for a new weapon(currently using the novice cutter) and well its disastrous to say the least

3) Just for future knowledge, how do stalkers/SC fair in terms of WoE/PvM compared to the other classes?

Thanks everyone, sorry it's kinda lengthy!

[meaning42]

Well, I can help you somewhat, but if you had scouted the forum a bit more, you would have found all the posts I've posted that answers about all these questions, well, I'm gonna do it again, because I like you a lot. Now don't take that too seriously.

1) Strenght is very expendable after renewal, it's been nerfed beyond belief, but still, 3rd classes manage to do +100k damage in one attack, so maybe it's not enough.. They removed the +10 bonus you used to get from str, aka, every total 10 strenght you had, you got a massive Atk bonus. Nowadays, on a rough scale, 1 str = 0.5 Atk.
You also need a lot more dex then you did pre-renewal since the monsters have a lot more flee now. At the end, 9x you should have about 70 dex.
Your best bet to level efficently as a rogue is to go:

9 Str (or whatever is left over)
9xAgi
1 Vit
1 Int
70Dex
1 Luk
With that stat build, I got to rebirth in 4 days. With my starter character, which is now 102/10 Chaser.
Stats also grants immunities now, 100 vit grants stun immunity and 100 Int grants Freeze immunity+Silence, if I remember correctly.

2) Not me my friend, I am poor as a church rat, all my money goes into Traps and Pots. Hard to compete for money with all the bots running about. Also, you should list what server you play on.

3) SC's are sorts of a jack of all trades, they can MVP, but arn't fantastic against the top tier bosses, since we don't have any nuke damaging skills(unless theres one you can copy, but thats beyond my current knowledge)
With the right gears, AKA Rideword Hat and 4x hunter fly Main gauche, you can pretty much mob monsters all day with firetrap and hardly never have to resort to pots.
SC's have good potential in WoE, if you can handle it, Shadow Formation is probably the sexiest PvP skill I have ever seen, you take another player as your subsitute and they take all that was directed at you, for a maximum of 9 hits for 1 min duration or so.
In combination with Manhole, Landmine and Shadow Formation, you can do some real damamge on someone while they just shake their heads and wait for their impending doom.

[Zeveror]

Well, I can help you somewhat, but if you had scouted the forum a bit more, you would have found all the posts I've posted that answers about all these questions, well, I'm gonna do it again, because I like you a lot. Now don't take that too seriously.

1) Strenght is very expendable after renewal, it's been nerfed beyond belief, but still, 3rd classes manage to do +100k damage in one attack, so maybe it's not enough.. They removed the +10 bonus you used to get from str, aka, every total 10 strenght you had, you got a massive Atk bonus. Nowadays, on a rough scale, 1 str = 0.5 Atk.
You also need a lot more dex then you did pre-renewal since the monsters have a lot more flee now. At the end, 9x you should have about 70 dex.
Your best bet to level efficently as a rogue is to go:

9 Str (or whatever is left over)
9xAgi
1 Vit
1 Int
70Dex
1 Luk
With that stat build, I got to rebirth in 4 days. With my starter character, which is now 102/10 Chaser.
Stats also grants immunities now, 100 vit grants stun immunity and 100 Int grants Freeze immunity+Silence, if I remember correctly.

2) Not me my friend, I am poor as a church rat, all my money goes into Traps and Pots. Hard to compete for money with all the bots running about. Also, you should list what server you play on.

3) SC's are sorts of a jack of all trades, they can MVP, but arn't fantastic against the top tier bosses, since we don't have any nuke damaging skills(unless theres one you can copy, but thats beyond my current knowledge)
With the right gears, AKA Rideword Hat and 4x hunter fly Main gauche, you can pretty much mob monsters all day with firetrap and hardly never have to resort to pots.
SC's have good potential in WoE, if you can handle it, Shadow Formation is probably the sexiest PvP skill I have ever seen, you take another player as your subsitute and they take all that was directed at you, for a maximum of 9 hits for 1 min duration or so.
In combination with Manhole, Landmine and Shadow Formation, you can do some real damamge on someone while they just shake their heads and wait for their impending doom.

Thanks for all your help 'meaning'! I play on Valkyrie server, so theres lots of bots running around you say? Maybe that explains the fact that when i was doing my eden group quests i tried to talk to other people there and no one responded they just ignored me and kept on teleporting/f-wing or just walked away....either im very unlikable or maybe the bots thing explains it

[meaning42]

Yeah, the first few days I played, I was wondering the same thing, until I overheard a pair of veteran players talking about the bot-invasion. There are other people, but soon you will be able to tell instantly on the way they interact with the enviorment weather they are bots or players.

[Dinmak]

Well, selling everything you loot might not be the only way around. At least NPCwise. There are some itens that are very important for item creation or quests nowadays, and they can be sold to other players (and you don't even need to resort to the trouble and time consuming duty of making a merchant for yourself).

There's this new commercial mechanic in RO where someone can advertise the itens they wanna buy, the amount they need and the price they'll pay for each item.

For example, iron ores: they sell for meager 19z at an NPC....BUUUUUT, if you walk around Prontera, you'll surely find at least 1 character wanting to buy iron ores and they'll play much more than that...I've seem people buying it for 220z a piece...
so, if you sell 100 iron ores to the NPC: 100 x 19 = 1900.
if you sell it to another player, lets say, buying it for 100z a piece: 100 x 100 = 10.000.

Magic, huh?

Now, there's this site: ragial.com/

There you can check if the itens you wanna sell have have buyers around the game, and the average price they deal their stuff....with those information, you can sell the unwanted loot to NPCs and keep the important ones to sell to other players at great prices.

[meaning42]

Actually, Iron Ore usually go for 800z a piece.
Ragial is a bit buggy at times, it usually leaves out some of the merchants. so, even it it's 1min since the list was updated, there might be a few merchants with the deal of a lifetime, not that I would ever dream of going around to check the whole market myself, I'm just saying that you should be patient for ragial to display a good priced deal. You can check the history of items, 1 week ago it might have been sold for 5mil, now it's 15m *coughhunterflycardcough* but if you wait a week, all the bots will have found enough cards to crash the market again, and it will suddenly drop to 5mil again.

[Dinmak]

Well, seems like I've been selling my iron ores at a reeeeealy low price.... T.T

Anyways, still better than NPCs, so, no losses here.

I think I'll take my time back on ant hell...althought the bots govern that place...