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#1 Blitzkrieg

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Posted 15 August 2010 - 05:32 AM

SUGGESTIONS

1)Sprint
raiders are supposed to be the fastest class if i know it right
(seems obvious that a character in so light clothing must be faster than all those armour flaunting species)
UNFORTUNATELY-champs happen to be way faster than raiders(without any buffs or requirement of wasting extra skill points for it)
considering that duals contribute total of 10 skill points to get a 50% movement speed up in buffs which is just a about 10% more than those of the finest clerics
i think sprint should be made a passive movespeed up rather than a an active buff
here is how it can stand in my opinion
level 1 = 4% and +4%more every level
rapid twitch is good as it is please dont alter the movespeed gain from rapid twitch

2)precision assault/slash
+12 % accuracy at level 1 is a really good gain from this skill
but the gain after level 1 does get boring with1% per level
please increase the gain per level 2% will be sweet

WELL I HAVE RATHER LOWERED MY DEMANDS
PLEASE I REQUEST YOU TO FULFILL EM ;)

THX
PLEASE COMMENT
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#2 Graziano

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Posted 15 August 2010 - 05:48 AM

Even if u make sprint a passive instead of a buff spear champs still beat that with theri 2x20% passive and 1x25% passive

But i totaly agree that there should be something done about the mspeed either give more on raider or reduce it on champs.

The subscription at raider say that they should depend on their hit and run tactics, but we kinda miss the running part in there.
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#3 Blitzkrieg

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Posted 15 August 2010 - 07:00 AM

yeah....faster champs defy the meaning of being raiders
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#4 Graziano

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Posted 15 August 2010 - 01:39 PM

yeah....faster champs defy the meaning of being raiders

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Posted 15 August 2010 - 08:23 PM

Slowing champs down would be better than making raiders faster.
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#6 Blitzkrieg

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Posted 15 August 2010 - 10:02 PM

yeah.......i agree
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 12:25 AM

Yes pleaseeeeeee.
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 03:50 AM

totaly agree

Any soldier class shouldnt be faster then another class, they have the heaviest armor.
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 05:17 AM

Slowing champs down would be better than making raiders faster.


this.. and my suggestion is just changing the passives you get from spear.. instead of mspd make it aspd.. axe=crit, 2hsword=accu, and spear=aspd.. each passives of weapns will give different bonuses that will contribute to melee battle capability for champs..
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 05:40 AM

I can understand champs being much faster during their 2 seconds of charge, but they should not be faster without charge on, too. This makes sense.
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 07:32 AM

Just lose all their mspeed passive, if they wanna be faster then a raider, then they should walk around in mspeed gear :lol:
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 10:21 AM

Is this a dual raider thread or nerf champs mspeed thread? I said it before hawkers should have an mspeed passive (10-20%)and champs should lose some of their passives. Losing all mspeed passives is dramatic and too much though.
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#13 Graziano

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 11:45 AM

Well since champs gain so much mspeed raiders started to complain, since they are the one who should relay on their mspeed.
And the fact that our selfbuff was nerfed from 60% to 50%. Tho they said that there would be something else come instead (dex give mspeed was the rumor), but we never seen anything accept new union armor which give enormous mspeed which is available for all jobs.

But really altho i dont like to disagree with u, when u think of it it's a bit insane that the class with the heaviest armor is so fast.
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 12:33 PM

Just change the mspd passives of spears to aspd.. Simple and Clean suggestion. :lol:
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 03:56 PM

Before orlo, dual raiders had so much more AP. Their AP passive, (dual wepon mastery), gave 60% not 20%.
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 03:58 PM

Yeah that was before, almost 9 months ago, there where alot of complain threats then about raiders :lol:

Edited by Graziano, 16 August 2010 - 04:01 PM.

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 04:00 PM

Yeah i miss my dual raider, I had to reset him to katar because he sucked because of his build.
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 04:35 PM

Is this a dual raider thread or nerf champs mspeed thread? I said it before hawkers should have an mspeed passive (10-20%)and champs should lose some of their passives. Losing all mspeed passives is dramatic and too much though.


Every thread is a nerf champ thread. :lol:

Losing all m speed passives isn't that dramatic. Naturally they could just leave quick step. I like the idea of changing the m spd boost in the spear passives to att spd instead. You guys would still have an m sp passive, but wouldn't be the fastest class while having a lot of defense and HP. Plus you still have charge.

I know how much m spd you have, you could seriously lose 40% of it and still be fine. :D
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 04:41 PM

I'm fine with that, I just would not be looking forward to changing the 65% mspeed passives to 0% mspeed passives. However the if the spear passives were to be changed to attack speed it should affect all 3 champ weapons. I'm afraid that may be overpowered though but maybe not if they change other skills.
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Posted 17 August 2010 - 04:08 AM

Just change the mspd passives of spears to aspd.. Simple and Clean suggestion. :lol:



+1,
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 01:24 AM

sorry but i disagree.
Knights are fat, slow ones.
Champs can move fast(er)
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 01:50 AM

+1,

You know, instead of typing '+1' there is a button you can press to do that.
Even pressing +1 does nothing.
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#23 BrownBear

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 05:33 AM

sorry but i disagree.
Knights are fat, slow ones.
Champs can move fast(er)


So that warrants champs being the fastest people on the field? They are supposed to be faster than the speed based class (hawkers)?

Edited by BrownBear, 18 August 2010 - 05:34 AM.

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 08:03 AM

:rice:...thx for the support...i hope the DEV team pays attention
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 08:04 AM

sorry but i disagree.
Knights are fat, slow ones.
Champs can move fast(er)


if champs are ment to move faster then they should not be wearing same clothes as knight since its heavy they should be wearing low def clothes like hawkers,clerics
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