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[Nitro]

Most parties in Dragons were able to do 4 turn-ins of the 200 count quest per 15 minutes, if not more. This was massive EXP and blows away the current gains from Kasa Turn-in. Kasa is much more challenging than Dragons, and to me a much more fun area to explore with a party. Yet, it seems that not as many parties are there at all. Yesterday, I only saw a couple players down there looking for parties and decided to solo a while before leaving Thor's Volcano. With a little adjusted, I think this could easily become more popular than dragons.

In the upcoming maintenance, can the spawn or exp reward rates for the Kasa quest be updated to make it compete with dragons turn-in?

Edited by Nitro, 27 April 2011 - 07:39 AM.

[IronFist]

not many classes can kill kasa, my mechanic does 10k reflected damage per kasa
gloomy RK are basically the only class that can level here

melee is reflected, they have 70k hp, deal about 2-10k damage and not really "mobable" and the exp isn't the best, actually the exp is horrible...

[Beata]

Heim stated in another thread that kasa spawn rate will be looked into this maintenance.

[Fibrizzo]

The exp reward is the one that needs to be looked into.

You can gain more exp/hour at 140 on Magma Dungeon in a 12 people party exp shared...

[Lancer]

lol holy 4 turn ins per 15mins? damn i wish i had a party like that, max was prolly 3 for me lol. no wonder so many ppl hit 150!

[Beata]

^With really good parties you can achieve that no doubt. Comparing to kasa, currently thats not possible. So yup, till now Dragons turn in wins. Aside from having a good party other factors helped as well including: map structure, monster dynasty, monster hp and monster difficulty. Kasa has active shield reflect, a lot more hp and the map is much bigger. Its screaming for more reward / spawns.

[IronFist]

in a good party im sure you could maybe get 200 kills in 15mins, with 1 CS killer a sniper and my mechanic we got 100kills in 12mins going hardcore... tryed to save my HE, but if anyother party down there no way you can do this. 200kills in 15mins youd need to have no other partys in thors, have 3+ clashing sprial RK,s/ fast killers and alot of gwings. im still 120 after doing like 1-2k kasa kills, even using HE's (most turnins at the lower scale give basicly a level)

nothing compares to dragons, from baby dragon hat to massive pulled mobs. dragons is ultimate turn in quest

Edited by IronFist, 27 April 2011 - 01:35 PM.

[meoryou2]

in a good party im sure you could maybe get 200 kills in 15mins, with 1 CS killer a sniper and my mechanic we got 100kills in 12mins going hardcore... tryed to save my HE, but if anyother party down there no way you can do this. 200kills in 15mins youd need to have no other partys in thors, have 3+ clashing sprial RK,s/ fast killers and alot of gwings. im still 120 after doing like 1-2k kasa kills, even using HE's (most turnins at the lower scale give basicly a level)

nothing compares to dragons, from baby dragon hat to massive pulled mobs. dragons is ultimate turn in quest

CS is stupid. priest, sorc, sura + leeches.
GoH GoH GoH exhale zen GoH GoH GoH ad infinitum. Maybe KA if you are worried about SP usage....

[Fibrizzo]

I was thinking about TKM and union-heat... Like prerenewal xD

Does it still work?

Edited by Fibrizzo, 27 April 2011 - 02:24 PM.

[Taper]

Get rid of Kasa's Shield Reflect and you'll find me in there again on my Mechanic.

Edited by Taper, 27 April 2011 - 02:40 PM.

[Kadnya]

I liked the kasa shield reflect because monsters with reflect trigger musketeer hat all the time. It does hurt more going faster, but then again, I love high speed even if it hurts xP.

[Ultimate]

Honestly for the amount of items it takes to stay alive, I think the exp needs to be quadrupled and the spawn tripled. No problem with kasas, 25k per HSCR without megs as I don't have any, just time + exp + items used = not worth it.

[jax5]

not many classes can kill kasa, my mechanic does 10k reflected damage per kasa
gloomy RK are basically the only class that can level here

melee is reflected, they have 70k hp, deal about 2-10k damage and not really "mobable" and the exp isn't the best, actually the exp is horrible...

Try Ice Launcher with strings. For me, somewhere around 30-35k damage dealt per kasa in the aoe, and around 2 casts per second.

Edit: but that doesn't change the exp at kasas still being quite bad compared to dragons.

Edited by jax5, 27 April 2011 - 06:23 PM.

[Sera]

They could just change it so that trap damage cannot be reflected...

[Puppet]

lvl 5 KA + lvl 4 GT:Change + Mild wind (water) + Dbl LIB carga= 40k KA's and a lex to that and you one shot, dont got to worry about reflect either, but then then KA leveling is not exactly fast

Edited by Puppet, 27 April 2011 - 07:59 PM.

[Hrothmund]

Increasing the spawn could be problematic since its a lot easier to get overwhelmed/wipe compared to dragons. Kasas actually hurt lol.

also 3x Juperos spawn! that was fun. Or at least just remove the respawn timer, 5 minutes kills it.

Edited by Hrothmund, 28 April 2011 - 01:05 AM.

[Unifan]

S>thors party leeches/ just autofollow and we will get 200 in 7-10mins (best for job exp 7m with 3xmanual for job) i think the EXP is fine is just the spawn needed to be increased/ other than that everything in thor is perfect, so no to exp boost, some people are just to spoiled lol. Cart Cannon with 2megs/hammer/bryn/sleip/endow will 2 shot soo is fast enough

Edited by Unifan, 28 April 2011 - 07:02 AM.

[Nitro]

Note to self: retire GX, make whatever class spams Cart Cannon. Oh, and get 2megs/hammer/bryn/sleip/endow. Profit.

[Kadnya]

S>thors party leeches/ just autofollow and we will get 200 in 7-10mins (best for job exp 7m with 3xmanual for job) i think the EXP is fine is just the spawn needed to be increased/ other than that everything in thor is perfect, so no to exp boost, some people are just to spoiled lol. Cart Cannon with 2megs/hammer/bryn/sleip/endow will 2 shot soo is fast enough

I think the event exp actually must be nerfed now that the training grounds npcs are giving free god items ad genetics to everyone. (maybe this is the problem with dessigning the event? Heim calculates how much exp you get with 3x manual + VIP + infinite supplies + God items as a reference instead of considering the reward for a turn in for no manual no VIP no god items...)

But seriously, it would be nice to see how do you find that much kasas in 7 minutes with the current spawn. And walking @@.

Also, spawn increase is not the solution, because as you pointed out, killing is too easy.

Edited by Kadnya, 28 April 2011 - 07:43 AM.

[DarkFrame]

Another way to lv there is using Sorcerer maybe.
I can do about 12k damage per hit with water element PW and it does 7 hit so u can kill it easily.
Also Jackfrost and water CC would work nicely too. =D
The problem is there aren't many mob there ><

[Unifan]

I think the event exp actually must be nerfed now that the training grounds npcs are giving free god items ad genetics to everyone. (maybe this is the problem with dessigning the event? Heim calculates how much exp you get with 3x manual + VIP + infinite supplies + God items as a reference instead of considering the reward for a turn in for no manual no VIP no god items...)

But seriously, it would be nice to see how do you find that much kasas in 7 minutes with the current spawn. And walking @@.

Also, spawn increase is not the solution, because as you pointed out, killing is too easy.

nah, u see the thing is, it doesn't even have to be a genetic with god items, you can have multiple kilers in party (Maestro/Sorcs/Genetic/ EVEN sura) that have powerfull aoe skills. i know my lvl 120 maestro can 1 shot kasa with SR w/o god items lol. kasa actually is not as easy, the more mob you have, the more difficult it gets. why? because they hurt alot and might cause a party wipe if not carefull. your request was to make TI by having chalenging monster, well a good 20-30kasa on 1 screen can prety much kill alot of ppl with firebreath if they cast it at the same time. and for whoever saying note to self "quit GX and make genetic with god item", lol wat a joke. this past TI event is always been in mobby place, where you dnt see a GX solo during TI event. go find a party

[Nitro]

nah, u see the thing is, it doesn't even have to be a genetic with god items, you can have multiple kilers in party (Maestro/Sorcs/Genetic/ EVEN sura) that have powerfull aoe skills. i know my lvl 120 maestro can 1 shot kasa with SR w/o god items lol. kasa actually is not as easy, the more mob you have, the more difficult it gets. why? because they hurt alot and might cause a party wipe if not carefull. your request was to make TI by having chalenging monster, well a good 20-30kasa on 1 screen can prety much kill alot of ppl with firebreath if they cast it at the same time. and for whoever saying note to self "quit GX and make genetic with god item", lol wat a joke. this past TI event is always been in mobby place, where you dnt see a GX solo during TI event. go find a party

You actually take that comment seriously? LOL.

[Fibrizzo]

You actually take that comment seriously? LOL.

That's what I call "autotrolling"

@ninjaedit: I meant the post you have quoted xD

Edited by Fibrizzo, 28 April 2011 - 04:26 PM.

[Nitro]

So yeah... Kasas is so empty right now. Maybe the number of turn-ins needs to be decreased to 50 and 100. Players I speak with on the turn-ins are not even slightly interested in going to Kasas and I would love to actually be able to party down there.