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#1 meaning42

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 11:44 AM

So, I'm starting to get decent gear, decent level, decent skills, but I still can't last more then 1 sec against anyone in PvP, I have 20k HP but any GX, RK, Genetic, Sura, RG kills me in a second, most often with 1 hit.
I'm just have this feeling that battle should take longer then the blink of an eye. It feels like I'm playing sudden death, except me, as a Shadow Chaser, have to play with what feels like 1 hp against someone with 50k...
I probably could kill some people, but somehow, even Shadow Formation fails me even if I have established a connection before the damage hits me.

I am ashamed to say it, but Jaye is right, battle was more fun before, at least then you could survive long enough to use strategy rather then first hit kills.

My gears arn't great, but I have 40% reduction and 10% neutral and 20k hp, but it seems useless, I could just skip out on all HP increasing gear and go for speed, maybe then I could at least outrun them.

This is probably a useless thread and I probably will get flamed to crisps over it.
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Posted 30 April 2011 - 12:02 PM

So, I'm starting to get decent gear, decent level, decent skills, but I still can't last more then 1 sec against anyone in PvP, I have 20k HP but any GX, RK, Genetic, Sura, RG kills me in a second, most often with 1 hit.
I'm just have this feeling that battle should take longer then the blink of an eye. It feels like I'm playing sudden death, except me, as a Shadow Chaser, have to play with what feels like 1 hp against someone with 50k...
I probably could kill some people, but somehow, even Shadow Formation fails me even if I have established a connection before the damage hits me.

I am ashamed to say it, but Jaye is right, battle was more fun before, at least then you could survive long enough to use strategy rather then first hit kills.

My gears arn't great, but I have 40% reduction and 10% neutral and 20k hp, but it seems useless, I could just skip out on all HP increasing gear and go for speed, maybe then I could at least outrun them.

This is probably a useless thread and I probably will get flamed to crisps over it.


Hiya there, from a class truly having an horrible HP mod, and made ofglass overall xP.

While I agree that the new skills an over all balance is bad, your case is not lost: you are a shadow chaser, the class with the second best HP mod (aka, the only thing with a better HP is a rune knight), instant deviating damage to someone else, and annoying disables. With a bit of leveling, practice and gear, you will enjoy playing pvp a lot more. You may be suffering from trying to face high leveled charas on a low leveled chaser, or you have a vitless build.

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 12:08 PM

Actually, I have 100vit, I am only 102, so I know that theres a enormous potential in my HP increase, but still, if I die from 1 hit now, I don't think increasing to two hits will help my case very much.
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Posted 30 April 2011 - 12:18 PM

Nah I remember when I was around your level, I was killed in WOE with 2 hits from gx, now im 118, and I can actually battle them instead of just dying every time I see them.
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Posted 30 April 2011 - 12:23 PM

You're actually quite lucky.

At a higher level you'll have a very strategic character that can piss ANYONE off.
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Posted 30 April 2011 - 12:23 PM

The biggest obstical I have, is that I don't know whom of them will have the urge to strike me, if I knew, I could Manhole them and take em out slowly, or at least Shadow Formation bombard 'em, but as it is now, I won't know until I am 6 feet under.
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Posted 30 April 2011 - 12:54 PM

Go level, get the masquerade skills, get some decent hp and stat resist. Become an unkillable annoyance.
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Posted 30 April 2011 - 02:17 PM

All great advice, but saddly none of that actual fixs how unbalance skils are special in woe
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Posted 30 April 2011 - 02:27 PM

Currently say you are a lvl 102 it's like being 65 prerenewal. I think you have to level a bit more and you'll get an awesome character. CS is a really versatil class.
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Posted 30 April 2011 - 09:01 PM

wait what?? theres a sc complaining about THIER HP mod?!... Hi... I'm a 150/50 Genetic with 22k HP FULLY GEARED with 100 vit, please kiss my ass if you think you are a squishy class everyone attacks. (yes genetics can disable etcetc still doesnt stop the one shotting and continuing KoS)
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Posted 30 April 2011 - 10:05 PM

Chaser with proper gear can live belted gfists , you don't need more hp. You get like 45k+ at 150 lol
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Posted 30 April 2011 - 10:09 PM

You need to level, lol. SC is one of the sturdiest classes.
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Posted 30 April 2011 - 11:09 PM

Are you talking about PvP or WoE? Because PvP doesn't matter at all.

And yeah, like everyone else is suggesting. Get to lv150 first, then complain on whether you're squishy or not compared to other classes.

You'll also eventually learn that as you gain more levels, your job in WoE won't be to kill people. It's to disable people while under the cover of chaos. Running up to someone alone means you aren't going to be doing anything effective.

If you're dying while engaging someone alone, then either you're picking the wrong class to engage or you didn't use Shadow Form in the right sequence of the encounter.
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Posted 01 May 2011 - 12:58 AM

Yeah, I kind of expected these reponses, and I don't think it is all that strange that I am concerned, I mean, I havn't played this game in years, when I stopped playing, 3rd classes was just rumor.
Then constantly getting killed by a single stroke from an enemy.
I just simply wanted to know if it would be like this from now on or if it would improve with levels.
Sorry for being oblivious about all the health modes. >_>
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Posted 01 May 2011 - 01:00 AM

Dude...im only 131 and im using garbage gear and i can still get around 42k hp with +20 vit food and hp increase potion. If i had variants and a glorious suit omg id cream my jeans. So yeah just level and youll be annoying people in no time. And remember shadow form is your best friend and also your worst enemy if your not careful.
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Posted 01 May 2011 - 01:18 AM

Small side question to anyone who knows, can you be divested while you yourself is in Shadow formation?
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Posted 01 May 2011 - 02:29 AM

Yes you can, also masqueraded. So you gotta be careful when you use it. It's a very noobish tactic(yet effective vs bad players and there are tons of them) to just spam shadow form on everything.
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Posted 01 May 2011 - 09:33 AM

Yes you can, also masqueraded. So you gotta be careful when you use it. It's a very noobish tactic(yet effective vs bad players and there are tons of them) to just spam shadow form on everything.

Depends on the territory though. Ymir seems to have less bad players who still attack a SF spamming Chaser in a precast. :V
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