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#26 Ciler

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 12:10 PM

Yeah don't..

If you want zeny fast and want to spend dollars on it, buy something in the kafra shop and vend it. Popular choices I would think would be the new Gym Pass Box, or even the HD ore boxes. Of course there are perineal favorites too like battle manuals and stuff from the Lucky Boxes.

Oh dear... You're actually encouraging people do do RMTs ?
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Posted 16 May 2011 - 12:17 PM

If they didn't want people selling Kafra shop points for zeny, they wouldn't have made them trade-able to begin with. They did not make them trade-able so there was a way for everyone to get them. They made them trade-able because they know people who want to get "rich quick" will buy KP just to sell them for zeny.

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#28 Kolmogorov

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 12:46 PM

Kafra point item should be vendable like kRo jRo etc. This is the idea of Gravity. I think we can't blame iRo GM.
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Posted 16 May 2011 - 01:00 PM

Oh dear... You're actually encouraging people do do RMTs ?


Why not when the zeny sellers are making a good income from it? Why not let the actual company profit from people that want to pay to win?
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#30 jake0619

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 01:05 PM

What happened to the good ol' days when there was no way of converting irl money to zeny? When selling neuralizers were illegal? Before all the boxes? :D

also what does rmt stand for?

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#31 naseefc

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 01:14 PM

What happened to the good ol' days when there was no way of converting irl money to zeny? When selling neuralizers were illegal? Before all the boxes? :D

also what does rmt stand for?


So you want to play the game for free and not have gravity make any money? Do you go to stores and ask for free stuff? How exactly do you expect them to run a business?
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Posted 16 May 2011 - 01:34 PM

I want to swim in piles of money, ducktales style.

Seriously though, the companies that sell Zeny are scummy as all get out and are not above hacking accounts to get zeny to sell when we hit thier botrings so if you don't like getting hacked or seeing bots, don't buy zeny.
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Posted 16 May 2011 - 01:52 PM

Yeah don't..

If you want zeny fast and want to spend dollars on it, buy something in the kafra shop and vend it. Popular choices I would think would be the new Gym Pass Box, or even the HD ore boxes. Of course there are perineal favorites too like battle manuals and stuff from the Lucky Boxes.


One thing I've been wondering (and even asked a few times, specifically on reset stones)
Why is most of the kafra shop stuff not tradeable/vendable?
If some of it is, then clearly there's nothing wrong with it.
So what's the deal?

Do you fear people would buy less KP? From what logic?
Wouldn't people buy more KP if they could trade/give2friends/vend any of the stuff that can be bought?

When I played on aRO (a young official server) a year ago, everything form the Kabra Shop (kafra means something awful there apparently) was and still is tradeable/vendable.

Also you wouldn't have to transfer stuff that ppl bought on wrong accounts because of misinformation in descriptions and that crap.
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#34 Squeezel

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 02:54 PM

Don't buy from Kafra Shop it's illegit. o_o!!
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Posted 16 May 2011 - 03:40 PM

Make it were u can buy Zenny from Gravity would stopp all the bot /zenny sellers .
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Posted 16 May 2011 - 04:22 PM

How about Kafra Lotto?

You buy your ticket and if you are lucky you win 100m. Each ticket 10KP xD
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Posted 16 May 2011 - 04:34 PM

<br />How about Kafra Lotto?<br /><br />You buy your ticket and if you are lucky you win 100m. Each ticket 10KP xD<br />

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that can be considered as gambling... and its bad for the kids
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Posted 16 May 2011 - 04:49 PM

The raffle is just as much gambling as that.
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Posted 16 May 2011 - 04:57 PM

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that can be considered as gambling... and its bad for the kids


were supposed to Corrupt the Youth /gg
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Posted 16 May 2011 - 04:57 PM

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that can be considered as gambling... and its bad for the kids

And the Lucky boxes don't? It's quite the same. One could give virtual money and the other one could give virtual items.

And with the raffle they are not increasing their wallets, their main concern.
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Posted 16 May 2011 - 05:00 PM

I'd rather just play a certain amount of real money for Zenny if offered thur Gravity, least ppl wont have to Struggle ingame as bad as other do.

Edited by Orath, 16 May 2011 - 05:01 PM.

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 06:08 PM

I'd rather just play a certain amount of real money for Zenny if offered thur Gravity, least ppl wont have to Struggle ingame as bad as other do.


I am assuming you mean you would pay a certain amount of money for zeny if provided by Gravity?


No what would happen? hyperinflation. Where zeny would have no value other then too just buy npc stuff. The only form of real currencies between other players would be items that are rare. So instead of 'B> Pharaoh for 3 bil', it would be 'B>Pharaoph card for 3 Deviling cards or 30 +7 D armors etc etc"

Then everyone who isn't rich would struggle.
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Posted 16 May 2011 - 06:26 PM

One thing I've been wondering (and even asked a few times, specifically on reset stones)
Why is most of the kafra shop stuff not tradeable/vendable?
If some of it is, then clearly there's nothing wrong with it.
So what's the deal?

Do you fear people would buy less KP? From what logic?
Wouldn't people buy more KP if they could trade/give2friends/vend any of the stuff that can be bought?

When I played on aRO (a young official server) a year ago, everything form the Kabra Shop (kafra means something awful there apparently) was and still is tradeable/vendable.

Also you wouldn't have to transfer stuff that ppl bought on wrong accounts because of misinformation in descriptions and that crap.

They've put most of the stuffs that people may want to trade around into box form when you buy them off the Kafra Shop. Only a selected few items requires you to buy it on the account you want (mostly the rental stuffs/event hats). You can trade the items in their box form without any problem.

Except the Red Wing Hat. I will never understand why the box version is account bound while the actual hat can be traded all you want.
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Posted 16 May 2011 - 06:32 PM

How about you pay the amount of Experiance you'd need to get to the next level as Zeny and get LvL UP?

Sounds pretty fair.
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Posted 16 May 2011 - 08:34 PM

why dont gravity sell zeny?so we dont need buy from zeny seller :D
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Posted 16 May 2011 - 11:40 PM

Gravity gets commission from zeny sellers obviously.
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Posted 17 May 2011 - 01:24 AM

Why this thread isn't pinned yet?
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Posted 17 May 2011 - 01:38 AM

yes why isnt it pinned? i dont mean locked i mean PINNED

lol for ur info!

100m valk cash = 24$(frm zeny sellers ILLEGIT)
100m valk cash = 2k WPE = 20$(Gravity(?))

ZOMG GRAVITY IS CHEAPER!
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Posted 17 May 2011 - 01:38 AM

They've put most of the stuffs that people may want to trade around into box form when you buy them off the Kafra Shop. Only a selected few items requires you to buy it on the account you want (mostly the rental stuffs/event hats). You can trade the items in their box form without any problem.


But still, why do they bother figuring out what people may want to buy from others?
And if they do, why would Reset Stone Boxes be untradeable except when bought via playspan? And is it me, or would you expect the stuff like marriage items and cloth dyes to be tradeable then?
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Posted 17 May 2011 - 02:41 AM

iro is half responsible for people getting scammed by not totally solving the zeny spammer problem.

Edited by sukidayo, 17 May 2011 - 02:42 AM.

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