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[Kadnya]

there is no longer a need to do weapon swapping since the cast time is completely the same between a KVM fist and any normal weapon now.

what is the point of spending so much efforts to make a +9 KVM fist just to get nothing but a damage nerf on your gfist? (if u notice, the atk on kvm fist is only 30) that's really lame. no one will make +9 KVM fist anymore, and the ppl who have them already got screwed over since it's now trash.

other KVM weapons might not good, but at least most of them are better than normal weapons. as said before, at least make it stack or multiply with sacrament or boost the fist ATK or sthing...

Would you believe me if I told you that kvm fist is still better than several and maybe most of kvm weapons?

[FiskBlack]

Would you believe me if I told you that kvm fist is still better than several and maybe most of kvm weapons?

I actually saw some Suras with instant or almost instant cast time, i think now suras need cast time reduction gears to get that fast cast time.
KvM fist as how is it right now is good but not overpowered as it was before, people want to have such 1 shot gears paying money for it? Then, there will not be such "Skill" in the role playing.

Edited by FiskBlack, 02 June 2011 - 09:45 AM.

[o0Mun0o]

I actually saw some Suras with instant or almost instant cast time, i think now suras need cast time reduction gears to get that fast cast time.

Actually the main chunk of the cast time of gfist is Fixed cast time (that's why with previous KVM fist effect removing the fixed cast time, it became almost instant)
And I believe currently there is no gears that reduce Fixed cast time. Are you sure on your statement?

I do think the previous KVM fist effect is some what OP, but I also think the way it is right now is making it a trash item.

p/s: 5% of instant cast wont work though, cuz sura don't go spamming Gfist like a sin crit maybe 25% is more reasonable?

[HayrohsLegacy]

Yea I guess, GFist casting time is fixed and only the +9 KVM effect can reduce it

Tested and proved failness

[Andini]

All this whinin from people who are a sura and from people thinkin the fist was op and both parties dont even kno the mechanics behind the fist

[o0Mun0o]

All this whinin from people who are a sura and from people thinkin the fist was op and both parties dont even kno the mechanics behind the fist

please do elaborate on the mechanics behind the fist

maybe i'm missing something out and i'm wrong when saying the kvm fist is trash as it is now.

[Viri]

If you permanently have sacrement, the fist is trash now. It doesn't stack with it. Otherwise it's like you have sacrement all the time. It's not that bad... nice for zen. On gfist tho it's pretty terrible.

[Estancia]

It's a buff to suras who use GoH.

[Viri]

It's exactly the same for those who use GOH if they normally have sacrement.