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[Elfbane]

Are some classes limited to using berzerker potions? I can't use them on my LK, just wondering if there are any pots out there we can use or if awakening is the best we can get.

[Kadnya]

Berserk potions are available to lord knights, but they have a level requirement of base level 85 or higher.

I believe that with third classes, we should just leave all potions open for any class. I melee a lot more on my bishop than on my lord knight, and being restricted by archaic prerenewal class/aspd balancing ideas isn't nice...

[Flower]

Theres always Aid Berserk from a linked Chemist.

[Elfbane]

Well my lvl is 85 and i can't use them, maybe they'll work at 86?, thanks for the answer ;D

[Kadnya]

Theres always Aid Berserk from a linked Chemist.

Having to drag a linker and a chemist with some classes is a bit bothering ^^;. Maybe making berserk potions open to any third class base 120 and higher could be fair enough =p?

Chemists don't use their link to go throwing berserk potions to other people anyways, but mostly to pot and sometimes to aid potion...

[Flower]

Yet there are still chems that will do that.
Cant really make it out like its not possilbe.

[Kadnya]

Who do these chems support o-o? Or are we talking about alchy-slaves?
Is there any actual party which would include a linker and an alchy just to aid berserk? o-o

So many questions...

[Flower]

In woe. yes there is.
for leveling, you've talked plenty of times how you autofollowed a million chars to do turn in's. I would think giving yourself aid zerk would be a breeze.

[Krispin]

IMO the class restrictions are just pretty dumb anyway.
Monks can't use them but wizards can?
Why wizards?
What could a wizard possibly use them for besides spamming jupiter thunder faster with instant casting? Which I assume can't be done anymore so yeah.

Even ignoring that, it just doesn't make sense for them to be able to use them.

Edited by Krispin, 04 June 2011 - 08:14 PM.

[Sera]

You can only become a wizard by doing a lot of drugs.

[zzgan]

You can only become a wizard by doing a lot of drugs.

^like

[Heart]

IMO the class restrictions are just pretty dumb anyway.
Monks can't use them but wizards can?
Why wizards?
What could a wizard possibly use them for besides spamming jupiter thunder faster with instant casting? Which I assume can't be done anymore so yeah.

Even ignoring that, it just doesn't make sense for them to be able to use them.

Battle Wizards need love too

[Hacks]

linkers cap out at 99 so you'll never find them in an even share party once third classes start getting in the low 110's

[Krispin]

Its not worth the trouble just for an additional -5% aspd delay anyway.
It isn't going to make or break someone, and even if that someone had 190 aspd or so with awakenings there's probably a less troublesome way to get that extra bit.

And it uses two freaking berzerk potions too!

The alchemist link is for the mass production of potions, tacking on the berzerk potion thing to the link is just a half assed way of fixing something that has stupid class limitations in the first place.

If you're going to go through this much trouble just for a tiny bit of aspd you might as well just link a blacksmith instead.
Alchemists lose nothing by having berzerk potion throw skill dropped and just expanding the class limitations on them.

[Kadnya]

Its not worth the trouble just for an additional -5% aspd delay anyway.
It isn't going to make or break someone, and even if that someone had 190 aspd or so with awakenings there's probably a less troublesome way to get that extra bit.

And it uses two freaking berzerk potions too!

The alchemist link is for the mass production of potions, tacking on the berzerk potion thing to the link is just a half assed way of fixing something that has stupid class limitations in the first place.

If you're going to go through this much trouble just for a tiny bit of aspd you might as well just link a blacksmith instead.
Alchemists lose nothing by having berzerk potion throw skill dropped and just expanding the class limitations on them.

Some characters need that extra 5%10% extra aspd from berserk + the AR from scrolls+ aspd gear in order to reach a decent aspd. I don't know if decent aspd matters to any other class because maybe archbishops are the only class without a useful mob-leveling skill and are also the only third class limited to concentration potions who levels by meleeing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg1FovRwm3Q

Having berserk potions available to third jobs would be fair in my opinion.

(performers are limited to concentration potions too actually, but they have one of the strongest and most versatile AoE leveling skill).

Edited by Kadnya, 06 June 2011 - 04:24 AM.

[DrAzzy]

Berzerk pot should be usable at 85, and I can say with 100% certainty that in the past, they were. Let us know if you're able to use them after getting level 86, or if you figure out anything else about why you couldn't use them. There may be a bug here...


Also, aid zerk is irrelevant here - it has the same lvl 85 restriction as berzerk pots. If it doesn't, that's a bug.