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[Ralis]

73. guardian stone : yes, we could do something, but its not being reported enough

Guard Stones (and Barricades for that matter) go down extremely quickly in Renewal. In fact, most of the time it seems guilds end up defending the Emperium rather than Guardian Stones or Barricades.

As it stands, a single decent GFist can take down a Guardian Stone. They need to have at least three times their current HP.

I would also like to see more of a bonus to Barricade defense / HP with castle defense.

Lastly, Guardians... Before they actually added an edge to WoE if you summoned the Guardians (for WoE 2.0 at least). Right now both their HP and attack are absolutely pitiful. I'd say buff them to around 3x the HP and 5x the attack. WoE 1.0 Guardians should actually do more than 2.0 IMO since they are really the only thing extra defense to castles besides the guilds in those castles, but if they were just buffed to the capacity of 2.0 that would be fine.

Thoughts? Concerns?

[GuardianTK]

I'd like to see the 1.0 Guardians actually make a difference in some little way. As they are right now, they're nothing more than little chicken scratches from novices. @_@ And unlike the 2.0 Guardians, the 1.0 ones can't Sense hidden characters. At least make it so the 1.0 Guardians can Sense hidden characters.

[Flower]

Also make Guardian research worth getting. Have it actually buff up the guardians by alot.
If i recall correctly, that skill doesnt even work on one of the guardians, forget if its 1.0 or 2.0

Edited by Flower, 04 June 2011 - 09:47 PM.

[Ralis]

2.0.

[Kadnya]

Indirect complain about bishops!:

Prerenewal, it was possible to defend guardian stones with safety wall. With our renewal safety wall, gfists kill the stone+ safety wall as if nothing. I believe that having the patch where damage is blocked by safetywall could make a much better fix to guardian stones than just a plain +HP increase.

[Ralis]

That will help some, but I can still take one down in about ten seconds on my RG.

[Viri]

I can 1 shot a guardian stone in a safety wall with a pvp weapon(for the GM's this is FAR from the most appropriate weapon for its size/type) with gfist. It's really unacceptable. They should have around 1m hp. The barricades seem okay though.

[GuardianTK]

Give the Guardian Stones the same amount of hp as the Barricades then? o:

[Pril]

Disable skill usage on guardian stone.

[BlackPotato]

make the guardian stones like the emp, but with less hp. forcing your guild to, idk, not just have a sura snap in, cc, and 1-2 shot the stone. if emp has around 900?(whatever the exact number is, u get what im saying) make the stone around 400 or something

[Snewt]

Disable skill usage on guardian stone.

This would prevent attempting to defend them too, would it not (i.e. Renovatio)?

[Dukeares]

good old day when Guardian Stone was scary..and u need 7 or 10 guy to take it down...

Maybe this video a good an example? of How barricade should work again?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMtXoGy__j0


Btw..Do we ever had any guild in iro ever hold a guild more then 112 day?

a Classic Almost legendary old Woe from euRo [112 days of castle defense been broken]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFleloIew-0

So many ankle Snare ..

Edit :
Thanks for the PM
Answer :
Valkyrie
Ymir

Edited by Dukeares, 05 June 2011 - 11:58 AM.

[Wanderer]

I tried to propose something regarding guardians here a few days ago

http://forums.warppo...re-interesting/

And I also was the one that made the guardian stone question in the Q&A session, I have seen many people complain about how fragile they are.

[GuardianTK]

I tried to propose something regarding guardians here a few days ago

http://forums.warppo...re-interesting/

And I also was the one that made the guardian stone question in the Q&A session, I have seen many people complain about how fragile they are.

I honestly wouldn't want 1.0 to turn into another 2.0. Just buff up the 1.0 and 2.0 Guardians.

[Dukeares]

Renewal Guardian and barricade are a failure they so easy to be take down.
Buffing up the Barricade might bring a lot of Challenging Fun in Siege /defending the Woe castle.