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[CaNehDa]

to be honest... this way will push the price up also

That's the whole point...

If you can't beat em, Might as well get rich with em

There is no stopping inflation unless the devs decide to say hey everyone, where' going to make every mob drop a tun of chems and dirty hearts!


Everyone that has proposed an Idea well, if we gather together make like 50 d7's and then buy out the main suppliers and lower the prices on our gems... No; that wont work - They'll just buy you back out.

You can't stop inflation, but you can help it get worse

Personaly I lol every time I see the prices on grade 7 gems go up

I cry a little because i'm still not finished my buffsets... but oh well....


Well... I guess there is one way to halt the inflation... but you need some people that are seriously rich already; and willing to pore their money into the pot at a risk of loosing it all with a new update...

so yea its kinda impossible...

Edited by CaNehDa, 16 June 2011 - 07:46 PM.

[Xenania]

That's the whole point...

If you can't beat em, Might as well get rich with em

There is no stopping inflation unless the devs decide to say hey everyone, where' going to make every mob drop a tun of chems and dirty hearts!


Everyone that has proposed an Idea well, if we gather together make like 50 d7's and then buy out the main suppliers and lower the prices on our gems... No; that wont work - They'll just buy you back out.

You can't stop inflation, but you can help it get worse

Personaly I lol every time I see the prices on grade 7 gems go up

I cry a little because i'm still not finished my buffsets... but oh well....


Well... I guess there is one way to halt the inflation... but you need some people that are seriously rich already; and willing to pore their money into the pot at a risk of loosing it all with a new update...

so yea its kinda impossible...

Failure rate on crafting gem[7] = 35%

D7
12 x 16 = 192
26 x 8 = 208 (16 heart)
35 x 4 = 140 (12 heart)
45 x 2 = 90 (08 heart)
64 x 1 = 64 (06 heart)
TOTAL = (060k x 694 chem = 41.640) + (1.5m x 42 White Heart = 63.000) + (750k x 32 gem[2] = 24.000)
TOTAL = 128.640

Once you failed on any grade crafting, the cost will multiple itself.

About the TS question: Where is all the money originating from-->
Its impposible to get such amount of zullie by selling stuff to npc.
The only way is: Put 1 vendor char at junon near crune selling/buying lisent.
Farming Chem, Dirt at Ruins-Prison <150 chem+50 dirt within 1 hour>.. or Lisent Hg/U at Junon CF <30 Hg within 1 hour>.. or Lisent Hg/U/Epic at Orlo - Wasteland (king scavenger).
Then sell all your chem-dirt-lisent.
You could earn at least 30m per hour by doing so. 150m in 5 hours.

So...Who the hell want to sell their UW gear +15 for 500m if everyone could earn 500m in 2-3 days.
This causing the draconis economy inflation.

Edited by Xenania, 16 June 2011 - 10:18 PM.

[maldini]

About the TS question: Where is all the money originating from-->
Its impposible to get such amount of zullie by selling stuff to npc.
The only way is: Put 1 vendor char at junon near crune selling/buying lisent.
Farming Chem, Dirt at Ruins-Prison <150 chem+50 dirt within 1 hour>.. or Lisent Hg/U at Junon CF <30 Hg within 1 hour>.. or Lisent Hg/U/Epic at Orlo - Wasteland (king scavenger).
Then sell all your chem-dirt-lisent.
You could earn at least 30m per hour by doing so. 150m in 5 hours.

So...Who the hell want to sell their UW gear +15 for 500m if everyone could earn 500m in 2-3 days.
This causing the draconis economy inflation.

u r not answering his question. u are answering on how to earn zuly...
he is asking how come there are so much zuly floating in the market....

shortly the zuly must be from NPC.... but thru which method... a lot of ppls have mentioned them in this thread...

[Xenania]

u r not answering his question. u are answering on how to earn zuly...
he is asking how come there are so much zuly floating in the market....

shortly the zuly must be from NPC.... but thru which method... a lot of ppls have mentioned them in this thread...

I want to say is the wrong assumption about the dupe. in fact making money on the Draconis is not so hard .. so it is not surprising if zullie floating everywhere.
Thanks.

[Cracker]

I want to say is the wrong assumption about the dupe. in fact making money on the Draconis is not so hard .. so it is not surprising if zullie floating everywhere.
Thanks.

Don't be naive.

[bluehell]

Its definitely the players that are working together and its irritating. If you have noticed that everyone makes D7's like 110mil now and most of them stick with that price and they all raise at the same exact price. Its a matter of communication. The economy is rising nearly 20% every couple days or so. Money is being duped or bugged or something.

A big server check should be done. Anyone with over 4b+ should be looked in closely. It takes a lot of work but they can do it. Oooorrrr a big major rollback or wipe. Happens to a lot of servers. And everyone that paid for IM points get their points back ^^. People are going to think this is a ridiculous idea but its the only thing that's going to work or Leonis is going to go BOOM and woosh. Or if not do some big money dropping or peoples zulie gets reduced to 500mil if its over that amount and that's on every char. So try putting zulie drops back but literally like 200k droppings instead of that dumb 354 zulie. If not 100k because NO ONE WILL PICK UP IF ITS ONLY 20K!! It won't really be worth the time.

Ive made 3bil in like a week just recently. If there is a roll back, i will quit. Though i know for a fact gravity will never have a huge rollback because half of the players would quit. Ive went through several day or 2 rollbacks, and that made me mad enough, think how mad even a 1 week rollback would make people.

[turnermanxi]

Ive made 3bil in like a week just recently. If there is a roll back, i will quit. Though i know for a fact gravity will never have a huge rollback because half of the players would quit. Ive went through several day or 2 rollbacks, and that made me mad enough, think how mad even a 1 week rollback would make people.

Trust me...it has happened to me PLENTY of times. I have quit over 4 games because of that. But if your not illegally getting the zulie it shouldn't matter if they check your history or not. The check is only to see if people are not being legit with getting their money.

[mrkez]

they will never do anything to the game, we gotta change it, not them, there are people with more than 20b, just think about the famous guy TopSellerInRose, he is selling/buying chems, gems since i remember myself of playing rose. i played the p2p version and i think i remember him from there, with all this price changes and those things, think how much zulie he has. its just an example, people gotta sacrifice a bit, im selling im wings (15) for 250m ffs, you think that is op? no it's not, however no one buys, why? cuz people want to save money for the other items, chivs, precious, buff sets, etc, etc, rose's economy is starting to fall apart, if we don't do anything instead of just trying to have more zulie, it will get even worst and there will be more people quitting..

i had around 20b and i was going to quit till 2 of my rl friends came to play and i gave 7.5b to each one, im still rich, what matters? we gotta do this sacrifices, give to friends or even if they're not ur friends, starting to put the prices lower, i'm doing it for a long time, i always sell cheap, the problems are the " others "

[mrkez]

and btw, shops in town just suck, people sell & buy IM, only lvl 200 items, epics (0) for 500m, srsly, get brain, you're destroying rose, and this is not only player's fault, all the IM changes did this

[RobbyKay]

About the TS question: Where is all the money originating from-->
Its impposible to get such amount of zullie by selling stuff to npc.
The only way is: Put 1 vendor char at junon near crune selling/buying lisent.
Farming Chem, Dirt at Ruins-Prison <150 chem+50 dirt within 1 hour>.. or Lisent Hg/U at Junon CF <30 Hg within 1 hour>.. or Lisent Hg/U/Epic at Orlo - Wasteland (king scavenger).
Then sell all your chem-dirt-lisent.
You could earn at least 30m per hour by doing so. 150m in 5 hours.

I tried to be as clear as possible, but (as already mentioned) my original question wasn't how to make money but where the money originates from. I know how to make zulie, and I can make about 50m/hour or more with a bourg if I want to. But all this money has to come from the NPC in some way, and that's what this thread is about.

But yeah, summed up I'd say the economy is pretty messed up and surely repels newbies away from the game. The people who were around when you could make billions by selling to the NPC have a huge advantage compared to new players, but there isn't much you can do about it now I guess.

[BertTheAddict]

Should just reset both servers
Imagine the uproar?