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#1 aznnnwhat

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 10:59 AM

I don't get the fact that noone wants to PVP Pallies..
I mean if your stacked and you know you can beat a pally, why bother leaving the room when you first off see a pally in a room?

I'm annoyed by this fact..
*Rants on and on*

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 11:09 AM

Stacked or not, it's no fun playing one
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 11:18 AM

Paladins are really annoying to pvp. Which is why I'm thinking I'll just level my glad instead of knight.
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 11:20 AM

It's cause they're mad jelly.
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 11:30 AM

It's cause they're mad jelly.

Is paladin really that fun? I've been tempted to upgrade to it but I feel that glad pvp is more challenging :x.
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 11:40 AM

Is paladin really that fun? I've been tempted to upgrade to it but I feel that glad pvp is more challenging :x.

I dunno. I like my Pally but I don't PvP so it doesn't matter. Glads do suck though.
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#7 MicoJive

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 12:00 PM

idk why. If you dont play like a tool and play fair there just fine. I pvp'd thuy last night with my pally for the first time...and god is his ms annoying :P but it was still fun and he beat my pally sooooo just get better with your class?
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 12:09 PM

idk why. If you dont play like a tool and play fair there just fine. I pvp'd thuy last night with my pally for the first time...and god is his ms annoying :P but it was still fun and he beat my pally sooooo just get better with your class?

You haven't pvped enough to say that
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#9 MicoJive

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 12:10 PM

You haven't pvped enough to say that

You Dont even know me? I can say whatever my opinion is...
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 12:10 PM

You Dont even know me? I can say whatever my opinion is...

And that's how I know you don't pvp enough
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 12:12 PM

Holy High Horse batman. If you had any skill playing in a fair fight vs pally you would know you can beat them or every pally would be flawless.
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 12:14 PM

Winning does not always equate to fun.
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 12:15 PM

I think the point is that when EVERY player is an equal level of high skill, it boils down to basic attacks and combos being more advantageous for Paladins than for other classes. At least I figure that's the point because it's pretty true.
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#14 MicoJive

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 12:18 PM

idk if you play classes stupidly almost all are lame. Sleep + log = stupid lame. Stumble locking = lame. 95% stun rp = lame. AAS spam = lame. Dont hate on just one class hate on them all.
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 12:23 PM

idk why. If you dont play like a tool and play fair there just fine. I pvp'd thuy last night with my pally for the first time...and god is his ms annoying ;) but it was still fun and he beat my pally sooooo just get better with your class?


It's not really quite that simple. Every class does not have the advantages that PFs have in 1v1, particularly silence/freeze traps, multiple wide-AoE hitscan-based launches w/ low cooldowns, netbind, decent-DPS damage-over-time skills like ze book, high base/buffed critical rate, the potential for extreme movespeed (as you mentioned), etc. Not saying Thuy took advantage of all of those, but I'm sure at least one or two of them played a major role.

Besides, Thuy is an exceptional case because he's extremely skilled (probably from learning how to play with stacked players while wearing "noob" gear :P).

That's not to say that other classes *can't* beat pallies. But for that to happen, there's usually a fair amount of luck involved, or high evade rate, or lag/glitching, etc. It also assumes that the pally isn't just going to spam SD or infi-lock or constantly barricade or do any of the other numerous annoying things they can do -- but I think you covered that with "play fair." (Oh, and don't forget their massive CD from set bonuses.)
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 12:48 PM

Idk i guess i just see it differently. Not trying to pick fights but you can either choose to pvp someone that can inf lock you if they feel like it, or pvp someone with 900 agi 400 evade and miss 9/10 times. Pvp in general is broken unless its naked and then pally for example doesnt dominate everything.
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 01:02 PM

Holy High Horse batman. If you had any skill playing in a fair fight vs pally you would know you can beat them or every pally would be flawless.

Okay going back to the op it says "wants" to. Want has nothing to do with skill. Being more skilled than your opponent even though they have so many annoying things to go through isn't really fun. It's just a bore.
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 01:39 PM

only thing op about Pally is the massive block rate which no stat can counter :P
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 01:54 PM

Blocking, healing, reflecting damage, maneuverability, locks, good catches, and high damage make them annoying.
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 05:22 PM

It's what happens when you play a class that someone can play (and win) simply by smashing all the skill hotkeys at once.
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 06:04 PM

Idk i guess i just see it differently. Not trying to pick fights but you can either choose to pvp someone that can inf lock you if they feel like it, or pvp someone with 900 agi 400 evade and miss 9/10 times. Pvp in general is broken unless its naked and then pally for example doesnt dominate everything.

If that's the case you need to lay off the goddamned minus button. Someone having a different opinion than you doesn't warrant that kind of action.
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 06:18 PM

It's what happens when you play a class that someone can play (and win) simply by smashing all the skill hotkeys at once.


Haven't personally played a pally yet. But if that's true then I'm gonna laugh.
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#23 MicoJive

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 06:50 PM

/troll on

Oh look i hit another minus button...They are there for when you do not agree with a post. Deal

/Troll off
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 06:51 PM

Haven't personally played a pally yet. But if that's true then I'm gonna laugh.


It's true the first time I played pally I 5-0ed ppl w/out even using guardian set
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 07:28 PM

You haven't pvped enough to say that

+1 to that, and to everything else about pallies,
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