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#1 Conjure

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 02:44 AM

Just wanted to know, does 13.3 patch gives anything to pure forger? As pure forgers forging skill is still pre heritage and living still there. There was nothing during Heritage patch. Nor it had any new skills at renewal. The pure forgers is still at year 2006. Or does gravity has forgotten that pure forger forged weapon and after so many episode the old weapon is actually no more for use.

Please answer is anything coming for pure forger? Or it will again dead class having pure forger or just forging old obselete weapons.
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#2 Scott

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 03:09 AM

VVS Ele weapons aren't useless.
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Posted 12 July 2011 - 04:08 AM

forgers cant make instruments, whips, katars, bows, level 4 weaps or weaps with card slots. the vast majority of weapons they can make are far too low damage to matter and nearly any given level 4 weapon with an endow or converter is far more effective. endowed grimtooth will always be better than an elemental damascus, no matter how many 'very's are in front of it.
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Posted 12 July 2011 - 04:40 AM

not everyone has money to maintain an endow grimtooth or the time to make a sage. Although now that i'm playing ro a lot i should >:P make one.
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Posted 12 July 2011 - 05:09 AM

Actually a lot of high ATK level 4 weapons and 3rd-job specific lvl 3 weapons do similar neutral element than many elemental level 3 weapons.

For example, a 100/1 sura with 100 str using a +7 carga with even 2 crappy cards like andre or something, would average 593 damage versus an earth 1-2 enemy, while a +7 fire Stunner would do 573 average damage on that earth 1-2 enemy. Earth 3: 608, Earth 4: 643. +7 Double Underneath Carga being 639. In this example on earth 1-3 monsters the carded carga is better, and on earth 4 monsters, the carga only does 4 less damage. All in all the cost and weight of carrying around an elemental stunner is pointless for 4 damage. And that carga becomes *substantially* better with endow/converters. 762 on earth 1&2, 823 on Earth3, 885 on earth4. Why would you dedicate a character (stuck at 99/70 mastersmith mind you!) that takes a lot of work to level or money to reset, just so you can make these mediocre weapons?

(FYI carga was just an example. Other weapons like Giant Axe and Hurricane Fury also greatly trump forged weapons ATK).

In fact card slots are just plain more useful since most 3rd jobs do too much damage and focus on weapons like double malicious carga instead (HP siphoning).

Edited by Jaye, 12 July 2011 - 05:11 AM.

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 05:19 AM

Answering Your Questions Directly

Just wanted to know, does 13.3 patch gives anything to pure forger?

No,Nope,Nothing,Nada,Zilch,nahi.

Please answer is anything coming for pure forger?

Again No,Nope,Nothing,Nada,Zilch,nahi.

it will again dead class having pure forger or just forging old obselete weapons.

Yes , Pure Forgers were Skewed Over. Best to delete characters like that.Unless You are minting billions of zenny supplying to the infinite bot population of iro valk.
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Posted 12 July 2011 - 05:46 AM

+1 minting billions of zeny supplying to the infinite bot population of iro valk.

hard to say this but thats a Real Statement...
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Posted 12 July 2011 - 08:15 AM

Doesn't look like it. Forgers do need an expansion of some sort including fixing the rank effects.
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Posted 12 July 2011 - 09:38 AM

Forgers got boned with no vaseline. They should reset the rankings on all servers for forgers aswell.
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Posted 12 July 2011 - 10:11 AM

Balance of power needs to be

Endowed carded wep > endowed wep > forged wep > carded wep > basic wep

Right now endowed weapons are almost down there with NPC gear. Some sort of expansion to the system, or being able to add element to existing lvl 3-4 weapons would be nice. Or creating forged weapons that have available card slots...

Edited by Jaye, 12 July 2011 - 10:15 AM.

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#11 Conjure

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 10:53 AM

Answering Your Questions Directly

No,Nope,Nothing,Nada,Zilch,nahi.


Again No,Nope,Nothing,Nada,Zilch,nahi.


Yes , Pure Forgers were Skewed Over. Best to delete characters like that.Unless You are minting billions of zenny supplying to the infinite bot population of iro valk.


@Zinja
There is no minting billions of zenny in forging the sell of elementals is very very bad plus the weapons which use to sell for 7 to 8 mill now sells at 2.5mill
so no more sell and no more profit as well

The supplying to infinite bot population is over. Either there are no more bots in valk server or GMs are not banning any bots, cause bots are no more buying the weapons. :P
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Posted 12 July 2011 - 01:59 PM

You get LESS THAN nothing, because they're not fixing the fact that your upgrade skill breaks forever if you change to 3rd job (it's based on how far over job 50 you are, which is always 0 for a 3rd job), so everyone else gets to move on while you're trapped in a pre-Renewal build forever.

Edited by Mwrip, 12 July 2011 - 02:01 PM.

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 02:53 PM

Am I the only one here that finds it ironic that currently in renewal, amidst all the nerfs to forgers going 3rd class, the top forger on Valk is actually a battle forge mechanic?
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Posted 12 July 2011 - 03:54 PM

Am I the only one here that finds it ironic that currently in renewal, amidst all the nerfs to forgers going 3rd class, the top forger on Valk is actually a battle forge mechanic?


I assume you are referring to yourself good sir and I call hax Posted Image

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#15 MrBudd

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 06:04 PM

I assume you are referring to yourself good sir and I call hax Posted Image

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Yes I'm referring to that fool that was dumb enough to get ranked on a character with inferior forge rates. It's total hax I tell you!! HAX!!!
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#16 Conjure

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 07:47 PM

Sad to know that there is still nothing for pure forger. So still pure forger has to be in year 2006 at before renewal patch. Dont know the developer at gravity has forgotten that there was something like pure forger who use to forge weapons before heritage patch. And they are still leaving in year of beta.
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