Is shadow forming others while they mvping legal?
#1
Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:39 AM
Is it illegal to do so? if it is, why this skill isn't disabled in mvp map yet?
#2
Posted 15 July 2011 - 02:42 PM
#3
Posted 15 July 2011 - 02:45 PM
#4
Posted 15 July 2011 - 02:54 PM
#5
Posted 15 July 2011 - 04:47 PM
Shadow Form ought to be made to only work on party members in PVM, like other skills that can cause problems for the target.
Note that, thinking about it, this doesn't sound like a bad idea, actually, as a legitimate tactic. How does it interact with damage reduction, etc? What happens if you sac someone who's got damage coming at them via shadow form? This is actually a pretty cool idea... I hope it doesn't get entirely disabled in pvm, but it should be changed to only work on party members.
Edited by DrAzzy, 15 July 2011 - 04:50 PM.
#6
Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:04 PM
If it happens to you, report it. That doesn't mean it should be banned from use, and I'm sick of it happening.
Edited by Scott, 15 July 2011 - 05:08 PM.
#7
Posted 15 July 2011 - 09:39 PM
@ OP you did the right thing for getting some type of resolution to this, come to the forums and complain. If enough people complain with you, it just MIGHT make it into being resolved in 6 months or less. But in the meantime of having to deal with the nonsense, I wish you much patience.
#8
Posted 15 July 2011 - 11:24 PM
They don't have these kinds of issues on kRO or jRO, hence why skills like this were never disabled from use on certain maps, other people, etc...
Seriously, it seems like every Shadow Chaser skill can be used for abuse. =/
#9
Posted 16 July 2011 - 04:03 AM
Clearly you just wanted to buff their CS damage.
Surely it can't be seen as skill abuse if you wanted to help them out.
Edited by Daray, 16 July 2011 - 04:05 AM.
#10
Posted 16 July 2011 - 04:07 AM
1 day ban seriously? Oh and dont get me started with the bots who get reported... Stripping their equipment, levels, and the items they hunted doesnt solve anything. They need to be PERMANENTLY banned.
#11
Posted 16 July 2011 - 06:16 AM
Think about~~~~~Chance to Dragon strip on PVM~~~~~
Also. The chaser skills are so fun... But people keep abusing it here... So the fun gets away.
Shadow Formation would also be the way to make the highest HP class be the real tanker~~~~~ [RKs, not Sacrifice RGs~]
Edited by asayuu, 16 July 2011 - 06:17 AM.
#12
Posted 16 July 2011 - 06:23 AM
that would stop alot of issues..
#13
Posted 16 July 2011 - 06:25 AM
#14
Posted 16 July 2011 - 07:05 AM
I've used Manhole to save my friend from mobs multiple times, so seeing it banned would annoy me to no end.
On the one hand, there are examples (such as you've given) where certain skills can be used both as contributors to more effective group play and additional personal enjoyment.
On the other hand, it can't be denied that some of those same skills can be used to grief. Finding a solution that allows both for more interactive/complex game play while limiting griefing seems to be quite the difficult task.
Edited by jax5, 16 July 2011 - 07:05 AM.
#15
Posted 16 July 2011 - 07:52 AM
#16
Posted 16 July 2011 - 09:04 AM
I remember my friend getting banned for Asperioing people attacking Angeling. Reports were dealt with immediately for skill abuse. Nowadays, there's so much leniency for the people who get reported.
1 day ban seriously? Oh and dont get me started with the bots who get reported... Stripping their equipment, levels, and the items they hunted doesnt solve anything. They need to be PERMANENTLY banned.
Yea, I made a thread some time ago about updating the punishments for these bannable offenses. The punishments are really a joke in most cases, mix that with the slim chance of ever being actually caught or banned and you have an immediate disregard for the rules.
I reported someone that KS me and then bragged about it in pub chat, 2 weeks later I get an email saying they will investigate it.../swt. I'm skeptical that this person was ever punished at all even with words of confession to prove it.
Ban durations are a straight up joke. 1-3 days for people that have like 10 accts doesn't mean a thing. For one, bans should block the whole WP account, not just a single RO acct. Ill-mannered activity on one acct doesn't mean you should laugh and be able to switch over and repeat again until another 2-3 weeks and possible caught again. Punishments should hurt, it should deter people from wanting to even take the risk. As of now, just feels like punishment is char select and log back in.
#17
Posted 16 July 2011 - 02:00 PM
People don't worry, GMs are supposed to be deputizing players to act as in-game mods in their stead :F
#18
Posted 16 July 2011 - 02:03 PM
If people would play civilly this wouldn't be an issue.
They don't have these kinds of issues on kRO or jRO, hence why skills like this were never disabled from use on certain maps, other people, etc...
Seriously, it seems like every Shadow Chaser skill can be used for abuse. =/
Yep. Sounds about right. But this being iRO it SHOULD be under the same area of leading a huge mob on someone and letting it kill them(cough bio2 Ti cough ab sorc cough) but this is iRO. the gms are like the sherrif in old westerns that have little or no power or effort against the outlaws in town.
#19
Posted 16 July 2011 - 06:22 PM
You don't have these kinds of issues on kRO or jRO for the very same reason you can't step upto a Street Fighter II Turbo machine in an arcade in Japan and pick O. Sagat. It'd probably be fine if you're a complete newcomer at the game (which, compared to any 8-year old Japanese kid in the arcade, you are), but there's unspoken rules about things like that and it attracts some very negative attention. You'd get kicked out of the arcade, and not by the managers/owners of the arcade-- by the players.
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