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#1 Oda

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Posted 16 July 2011 - 01:03 PM

Hello all.

Next Tuesday's maintenance will usher in a change to the 3rd job change on Ymir. After the maint, a VIP subscription or 1 reset stone per character (for non-VIPs) will be required.
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#2 Juno

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Posted 16 July 2011 - 03:08 PM

If I could, I would -1 you know ;(

When is the next Happy Box for 15$ coming by the way? Need more Headgears!
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 03:36 PM

why the change?
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 04:08 PM

why the change?

Not a premium server anymore, should be treated same as valk
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 04:18 PM

so your saying you dont have to pay to make characters now? damn where have i been the past 24 hours
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 04:48 PM

so what you are saying is I better get all my alt characters to 3rd class by the next maintience.
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 04:49 PM

Not a premium server anymore, should be treated same as valk


VIP server, not freeloading bot filled zeny buyer paradise server.
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 06:03 PM

VIP server, not freeloading bot filled zeny buyer paradise server.

that's harsh.____.
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 06:13 PM

shes got a point though bots are an eyesore no matter how you try and make it look right, u also cant deny that people have botted and bought zeny in order to get ahead of everyone else

Edited by Cubical, 16 July 2011 - 06:14 PM.

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Posted 16 July 2011 - 06:20 PM

Yeah, but not everyone is like that for pete's sake~ Valkyrie may not be the best server but if valkyrie did not exhist ygg would be the one filled with bots so be a little kinder to those who started out here with no option. Not all the people there are bots/buyers/jerks and we have as many well rounded fair playing characters as you do.

Just the way Xellie worded it made it seems like because Valk is a "freeloading bot filled zeny buyer paradise server" it should have the lowest privileges of which I do not agree.
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 06:36 PM

Everyone gets to suffer! Though I'd much prefer this stupidity is removed from all servers.
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 06:38 PM

Ygg is filled with bots from what someone there told me. The restrictions are in place to punish the community and bots for free loading from what i can see.
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 06:52 PM

tons of people bot in one way or another, and another ton benefit from the bots botting in one way or another. bunch of people also buy zeny on both servers, and a decent amount buy things for irl zeny. people buy botted things and xfer them to ymir, or go vice versa and create more profit. ever since xfers have started from valk to ymir and now both ways, each server uses another

valk may be like that stinky, dirty guy you know, but ymir is the person that that guy hugs and hangs out with constantly

Edited by Andini, 16 July 2011 - 06:55 PM.

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Posted 16 July 2011 - 06:56 PM

Eh.....................................

Okay.
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 06:59 PM

Sera: I thought it already worked like this.
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 07:05 PM

Sera: I thought it already worked like this.


Myzery: Hi Sera
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 07:18 PM

Yeah, but not everyone is like that for pete's sake~ Valkyrie may not be the best server but if valkyrie did not exhist ygg would be the one filled with bots so be a little kinder to those who started out here with no option. Not all the people there are bots/buyers/jerks and we have as many well rounded fair playing characters as you do.

Just the way Xellie worded it made it seems like because Valk is a "freeloading bot filled zeny buyer paradise server" it should have the lowest privileges of which I do not agree.


Correct, but there isstill an essential difference between the servers.

I don't see why we should have to pay to get on to the server and then pay to access a normal-non optional part of the game (third class) - if you really want people to buy the reset stones to make money, do it so Ymir can merely skip the quest with them.

I remember reading (I think it was heim) once saying that no part of the game should be inaccessable. Although reset stones can be purchased with Zeny, that's a horrible horrible atmosphere to encourage.
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 07:26 PM

i think it's way past the time where it was something they didn't want to do. they have became a turn the other way when things regarding wpe for zeny is concerned. why do you think they advertise the virtual gift cards, and especially now that you can buy 1k codes. no gm in their right mind can say with a straight face that that the feature is for people to only "gift" it to friends. they know what's up, but it brings in sales and i guess in a way it's a way for people to make zeny w/o buying from zeny sellers. selling or buying wpe for zeny is like one of the most common trades now

reset stones being vendable is just another small thing.

Edited by Andini, 16 July 2011 - 07:33 PM.

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Posted 16 July 2011 - 07:59 PM

Yeah, I know =(

There's a fine line between "buying WPE" and selling zeny.
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 08:15 PM

I don't understand the change. Back when it was first implemented wasn't the reasoning that having such a barrier in place would prevent bots from job changing? On Ymir though, we have to pay to create characters, which creates a barrier in itself. So I see no reason why this has been added, when reset stones to job change was originally added to prevent bots from job changing.
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 08:38 PM

They are just greedy and want you to pay 1 Dollar for every 3rd jobchange or VIP :thumb:
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 08:48 PM

Yeah, it's just greed. They used bots as an excuse to do the change on valk, but it was just that: an excuse. If anything putting the same change on ymir proves that.

Either way it should just be taken out.
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 08:57 PM

Considering people on Ymir have paid money to Gravity at some point, this seems like nothing more than a cash grab.
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 09:01 PM

Lemme repeat myself :thumb:

If you do not like what an maintenance brings on, dont play this week!
If you do not like something in general and feel like iRO is trying to scam you (*caught* Headgear that is advetised as top only but takes two slots and they just screwed you *caught*) stop paying VIP, buying cash shop items or just quit.

Its so easy :(
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 11:30 PM

I was hoping this change had been indefinitely postponed, like reinstating the drop penalty. I can see the rationale of having it on the open servers, but having it on Ymir only serves to annoy people. Why not leave well enough alone? Is it really worth that much to nickel and dime people? I'm sure folks will just complain and pay for it anyway, but this kind of thing does not endear customers. Following in Netflix's footsteps I suppose...

Edited by Resplendent, 16 July 2011 - 11:30 PM.

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