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#1 firzen

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 07:28 AM

I got a pure fire wizard not far off from becoming warlock (don't ask why pure fire, just understand).

After planning my skills out, I realise I will have to make a choice between ganbantein or safety wall.

My ice warlock has both and uses neither, lol, but he's not max level or pvp or woe yet either.

Please, help me make this decision
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 07:37 AM

Safety Wall is going to get a buff back to its original prime use from back in Pre-renewal to where over-spill damage won't affect you if damage from something exceeds its hp limit when the collective kRO balance updates come around next month or the month after. As it is at this point, Safety Wall would serve you better in terms of PvM/PvP/MvP/WoE when that balance update does get here as compared to Ganbantein. Royal Guards and their Earth Drive, which serves as an enhanced Ganbantein in addition to damage to the opponent, is much more useful than Ganbantein would be at this point.
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 09:45 AM

crazy weeds its WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than earth drive.... and 40x more damage, removing all things on the floor (including characters XD) dude choice safety wall...... i think you are getting specific elemental caster for those weird sets that amp specific elemental damage+ those alchemy gloves
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 10:51 AM

Safety wall is more of a well rounded skill, you could use in PVP,PVM,WoE and Ganbantein is pretty much WoE or situational places like some MVPS.
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 01:34 PM

Just about all wizard offensive skills become useless after you become a warlock. That in mind, I'd only suggest getting pre-req skills and most of the skills that add to functionality, ie. get both safety wall and ganbantein, even if ganbantein has a pretty crap cast time. Why do you need two warlocks?
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#6 firzen

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 05:07 PM

Safety Wall is going to get a buff back to its original prime use from back in Pre-renewal to where over-spill damage won't affect you if damage from something exceeds its hp limit when the collective kRO balance updates come around next month or the month after. As it is at this point, Safety Wall would serve you better in terms of PvM/PvP/MvP/WoE when that balance update does get here as compared to Ganbantein. Royal Guards and their Earth Drive, which serves as an enhanced Ganbantein in addition to damage to the opponent, is much more useful than Ganbantein would be at this point.


Ok cool and thanks for the info. Question, I don't like to hope on updates, so with safety wall as it is now, which would serve better? and how certain is that update?

crazy weeds its WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than earth drive.... and 40x more damage, removing all things on the floor (including characters XD) dude choice safety wall...... i think you are getting specific elemental caster for those weird sets that amp specific elemental damage+ those alchemy gloves


I'm not getting it for that reason but thanks for the advice.

Safety wall is more of a well rounded skill, you could use in PVP,PVM,WoE and Ganbantein is pretty much WoE or situational places like some MVPS.


cool thank you

Just about all wizard offensive skills become useless after you become a warlock. That in mind, I'd only suggest getting pre-req skills and most of the skills that add to functionality, ie. get both safety wall and ganbantein, even if ganbantein has a pretty crap cast time. Why do you need two warlocks?


I can't get both safety wall and ganbantein, as I originally stated I have to make a choice. And I have two warlocks because one is pure fire one is pure ice
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 05:39 PM

Are you really thinking on get gambentain?
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 06:16 PM

Ok cool and thanks for the info. Question, I don't like to hope on updates, so with safety wall as it is now, which would serve better? and how certain is that update?

BEFORE RENEWAL CHUCK NORRIE´S GFIST WAS THE ONLY WAY TO PIERCE SAFETY WALL!!!! but now even those stupid traps can destroy safety wall in 2 hits............
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 07:16 PM

Just about all wizard offensive skills become useless after you become a warlock. That in mind, I'd only suggest getting pre-req skills and most of the skills that add to functionality, ie. get both safety wall and ganbantein, even if ganbantein has a pretty crap cast time. Why do you need two warlocks?


You should see how formidable Storm gust still is on a Warlock. Also Heaven's Drive makes GXs and SCs go wtf if you hit them while hiding.
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 08:03 PM

You should see how formidable Storm gust still is on a Warlock.

Formidable or just plain annoying when Released? xD
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Posted 27 July 2011 - 01:34 AM

Are you really thinking on get gambentain?


I wasn't sure. This thread was convincing me to get safety wall and I thought that's what I was gonna go with. But now I hear Ganbantein post renewal sucks so I don't know. I guess the certainty of that update will mean a lot

BEFORE RENEWAL CHUCK NORRIE´S GFIST WAS THE ONLY WAY TO PIERCE SAFETY WALL!!!! but now even those stupid traps can destroy safety wall in 2 hits............


lol I see, thanks
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Posted 27 July 2011 - 01:52 AM

:P" it suks so bad that the skill used to tank mvps with i had removed it in a heart beat.
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