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#101 BloodWave

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 02:48 PM

No one will spend gold on Gada coins

Well its a free alternative you get gada from killin monsters and that should be fair for the people who dont wanna pay
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Posted 06 August 2011 - 02:49 PM

Use chrome


i used chrome since the first time they released it. i left firefox a long time ago.

soo, surveys for WP energy is out of the question for me.

so, i dont have IM, i cant do surveys, trading IM for gold is forbidden unless some1 is amazingly kind and gift ins to me, i cant enchant because i dont have ins, i cant get a good gear without randomizer, all my gear probably ended up with all advance with strength or armor defense as an option, i will probably only hit 2000ish defense, and around 5000ish atk.

how can i compete with IM buyers when they have at least 1 or 2 legend gears, at least +15 enchantment either on their gears or weapon, at least 4000ish defense, and around 10000ish atk.

or should i take those 50/50 chance just like storm said to enchant my gear and when it fails, the weapon got destroyed and send ticket to WP that i "accidentally" destroyed my weapon? and keep doing that over and over until i reach the enchantment i desire?


personally i never get scammed through IM, i did got scam once through in game market!
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Posted 06 August 2011 - 02:50 PM

Well its a free alternative you get gada from killin monsters and that should be fair for the people who dont wanna pay

It will make wp lose money
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Posted 06 August 2011 - 02:51 PM

i used chrome since the first time they released it. i left firefox a long time ago.

soo, surveys for WP energy is out of the question for me.

so, i dont have IM, i cant do surveys, trading IM for gold is forbidden unless some1 is amazingly kind and gift ins to me, i cant enchant because i dont have ins, i cant get a good gear without randomizer, all my gear probably ended up with all advance with strength or armor defense as an option, i will probably only hit 2000ish defense, and around 5000ish atk.

how can i compete with IM buyers when they have at least 1 or 2 legend gears, at least +15 enchantment either on their gears or weapon, at least 4000ish defense, and around 10000ish atk.

or should i take those 50/50 chance just like storm said to enchant my gear and when it fails, the weapon got destroyed and send ticket to WP that i "accidentally" destroyed my weapon? and keep doing that over and over until i reach the enchantment i desire?


personally i never get scammed through IM, i did got scam once through in game market!


you know i was kidding right? D:
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Posted 06 August 2011 - 02:52 PM

i used chrome since the first time they released it. i left firefox a long time ago.

soo, surveys for WP energy is out of the question for me.

so, i dont have IM, i cant do surveys, trading IM for gold is forbidden unless some1 is amazingly kind and gift ins to me, i cant enchant because i dont have ins, i cant get a good gear without randomizer, all my gear probably ended up with all advance with strength or armor defense as an option, i will probably only hit 2000ish defense, and around 5000ish atk.

how can i compete with IM buyers when they have at least 1 or 2 legend gears, at least +15 enchantment either on their gears or weapon, at least 4000ish defense, and around 10000ish atk.

or should i take those 50/50 chance just like storm said to enchant my gear and when it fails, the weapon got destroyed and send ticket to WP that i "accidentally" destroyed my weapon? and keep doing that over and over until i reach the enchantment i desire?


personally i never get scammed through IM, i did got scam once through in game market!

maybee someone will gift u insurance cards
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Posted 06 August 2011 - 03:02 PM

i used chrome since the first time they released it. i left firefox a long time ago.

soo, surveys for WP energy is out of the question for me.

so, i dont have IM, i cant do surveys, trading IM for gold is forbidden unless some1 is amazingly kind and gift ins to me, i cant enchant because i dont have ins, i cant get a good gear without randomizer, all my gear probably ended up with all advance with strength or armor defense as an option, i will probably only hit 2000ish defense, and around 5000ish atk.

how can i compete with IM buyers when they have at least 1 or 2 legend gears, at least +15 enchantment either on their gears or weapon, at least 4000ish defense, and around 10000ish atk.

or should i take those 50/50 chance just like storm said to enchant my gear and when it fails, the weapon got destroyed and send ticket to WP that i "accidentally" destroyed my weapon? and keep doing that over and over until i reach the enchantment i desire?

Buy IM with money?
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Posted 06 August 2011 - 03:13 PM

Use Internet Explorer?
Download Firefox?
OPERA SAFFARI A JOB?!!!!!!!!!!

Edited by Himeyasha, 06 August 2011 - 03:20 PM.

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#108 Kazu731

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 03:16 PM

Storm, he has no idea what he's talking about. I love how he accused you of pornography sites because you used Surveys.

God, what an idiot.
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Posted 06 August 2011 - 03:32 PM

also how is anyone in this thread intimidating anyone else?


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Posted 06 August 2011 - 03:38 PM

SOME STUFF HAPPENED BUT IT'S NOT IMPORTANT OBVIOUSLY
Result -> Consumables untradeable

MORE STUFF HAPPENS
->I HAVE AN IDEA LET'S MAKE CONSUMABLES TRADEABLE TO FIX IT!
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Posted 06 August 2011 - 03:42 PM

In this thread:
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Posted 06 August 2011 - 03:43 PM

Buy IM with money?


That's not an alternative. It could be, but the whole point is that some of us don't have access to credit cards, or have money to spend. ( I'm certain that there are plenty of people who are under 18 cannot buy IM, and their parents would just say no, giving the whole speech that its a waste of money and that you should be studying, like me.)

At this point, the discussion is about how the people who cannot afford/don't want to spend their money on this game can still enjoy the game as much as the people who are well off that do purchase IM.

Remember that this game is free to play, and should be enjoyable to everyone.

EDIT: @Zab: That sir, is unbelievably funny. *goes to laugh in another room*

Edited by DarkWyvern, 06 August 2011 - 03:46 PM.

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 03:46 PM

That's not an alternative. It could be, but the whole point is that some of us don't have access to credit cards, or have money to spend. ( I'm certain that there are plenty of people who are under 18 cannot buy IM, and their parents would just say no, giving the whole speech that its a waste of money and that you should be studying, like me.)

At this point, the discussion is about how the people who cannot afford/don't want to spend their money on this game can still enjoy the game as much as the people who are well off that do purchase IM.

Remember that this game is free to play, and should be enjoyable to everyone.

EDIT: @Zab: That sir, is unbelievably funny. *goes to laugh in another room*


Free to play, pay to prosper.
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#114 Kazu731

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 03:47 PM

That's not an alternative. It could be, but the whole point is that some of us don't have access to credit cards, or have money to spend. ( I'm certain that there are plenty of people who are under 18 cannot buy IM, and their parents would just say no, giving the whole speech that its a waste of money and that you should be studying, like me.)

At this point, the discussion is about how the people who cannot afford/don't want to spend their money on this game can still enjoy the game as much as the people who are well off that do purchase IM.

Remember that this game is free to play, and should be enjoyable to everyone.

I consider this a tired and overdrawn point to a degree. I find that this statement is broad just to capture general interest, whereas it's only people who don't buy IM and want to be competitive whine that they cannot enjoy the game fully because the other competitive players can buy IM.

The game is perfectly enjoyable without IM and it has never been an issue aside from the competitive players. Competitive does not equal the whole game; it is only a single aspect. And on THAT subject, I find that if you truly want to be competitive you must be willing to put in the required effort, rather IM, to get there. There is more than enough for everyone to enjoy without IM.
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Posted 06 August 2011 - 04:35 PM

That's not an alternative. It could be, but the whole point is that some of us don't have access to credit cards, or have money to spend. ( I'm certain that there are plenty of people who are under 18 cannot buy IM, and their parents would just say no, giving the whole speech that its a waste of money and that you should be studying, like me.)

At this point, the discussion is about how the people who cannot afford/don't want to spend their money on this game can still enjoy the game as much as the people who are well off that do purchase IM.

Remember that this game is free to play, and should be enjoyable to everyone.

If IM was meant to be for people without money then it would not be a Cash Shop currency.
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Posted 06 August 2011 - 05:57 PM

No one will spend gold on Gada coins


Actually, I buy Gadas then farm Kyros. Make a profit with set parts + spec/arti weapons. But using gada vending with ins. Scrolls as am option is a good idea since they're untradable. So no scams and everyone can afford either buying gadas with gold or some grinding. Imagine what a pro could get with 4+ hours of CoF farming.

However for issues with IM spenders make the cost like 10-15 gadas for like 1-3 ins.
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Posted 06 August 2011 - 06:55 PM

Actually, I buy Gadas then farm Kyros. Make a profit with set parts + spec/arti weapons. But using gada vending with ins. Scrolls as am option is a good idea since they're untradable. So no scams and everyone can afford either buying gadas with gold or some grinding. Imagine what a pro could get with 4+ hours of CoF farming.

However for issues with IM spenders make the cost like 10-15 gadas for like 1-3 ins.

more like 40-60 for 1 , they have to make it accessible to the penny pinchers ,but also encourage buying actual Im to make it whole lot easier
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Posted 06 August 2011 - 07:34 PM

If I do recall you could buy an insurance scroll with gada coins from that vending machine with the small pots , they could just bring that back and maybe add 10min exp pot and soul randomizer to it , problem solved?

NO,there will be more botters like N*whand and O*dhand
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Posted 06 August 2011 - 07:37 PM

Made a suggestion thread for alternative solutions.

http://forums.warppo...he-new-im-rule/

Feel free to post/repost your suggestions there. Try to keep it constructive.

Edited by Maronu, 06 August 2011 - 07:37 PM.

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 08:21 PM

Made a suggestion thread for alternative solutions.

http://forums.warppo...he-new-im-rule/

Feel free to post/repost your suggestions there. Try to keep it constructive.

WOW MARONU

WAY TO TAKE MY SUGGESTION

AND TOTALLY STEAL IT

AND BY STEAL I MEAN PUT IT INTO PRACTICE IN A PRODUCTIVE AND MEANINGFUL WAY TO THE COMMUNITY

You're a monster
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Posted 06 August 2011 - 08:28 PM

WOW MARONU

WAY TO TAKE MY SUGGESTION

AND TOTALLY STEAL IT

AND BY STEAL I MEAN PUT IT INTO PRACTICE IN A PRODUCTIVE AND MEANINGFUL WAY TO THE COMMUNITY

You're a monster


How dare he be so productive and intelligent! :|
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Posted 06 August 2011 - 08:38 PM

How dare he be so productive and intelligent! :|


Not to worry I shall write a strongly worded letter.
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Posted 06 August 2011 - 10:21 PM

WOW MARONU

WAY TO TAKE MY SUGGESTION

AND TOTALLY STEAL IT

AND BY STEAL I MEAN PUT IT INTO PRACTICE IN A PRODUCTIVE AND MEANINGFUL WAY TO THE COMMUNITY

You're a monster


Did you say that in a cute little shrill voice like the gingerbread man?
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#124 Kazu731

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 10:27 PM

Did you say that in a cute little shrill voice like the gingerbread man?

I DIDN'T UNTIL YOU STOLE THE IDEA AND MADE IT BETTER!!

SO YES, NOW I DID!!

Not the gumdrop buttons insurances!
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Posted 06 August 2011 - 10:39 PM

We have a few options here, actually.
1. Make all IM items tradeable (Unlikely at this time due to what's already been discussed).
2. As Maru pointed out, amend the user policy so that the responsibility is 100% on the buyer.
3. Implement some sort of escrow service, whether through an in-game feature (sort of like a trade window-- or in addition to a "Gift" option implement a "Sell To" feature) or via a team of trusted community members.

The latter is just a wild idea.

This problem could have been semi-avoided if people just gifted in much smaller amounts with unverified cash sellers. It's time consuming, but on the other hand much less risky.
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