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#1 exodius

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 03:12 AM

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So ok, i'm starting to get a real bad feeling about iRo.

Here's whats happend :
Today, i was looking for Valkyrie (ppl who hunt it knows i'm hunting it sometimes, as well as some others mvps).
Found it, the place was a little mobbed by skoegguls and others things. I had to move valk away, so i snap around, other sura was looking at me, and valk changed target.
I was then fked up

Saw the gfist going and as usualy with that player (won't tell names), it's a one hit KO.
Sura is supposed to had 120 str 120 int + 2 megs + others godly stuff. Hunting walk 12/24 7/7 days

So : Dude, sorry to say that through forums but whats the point to

- Being NOLIFE at that point to hunt like a robot ?
- Seems likes you still never had enough zeny, even when you had a shop selling valk shields 24/24 ALL YEAR ?
- Do you never stop to say just hello ? so unfriendly, that you REALLY look like a BOT.

Yesterday; same place, same mob, another player (geneticist) : i was doing my best with the best gear i have, eating ales like crazy because a skoggul that was here with the valk, trying to gfist valk.
Geneticist came, see me, mmove around and bring more mobs on me. I'm dead, overmobed :/
He surely kills the valk, out of my screen.

I am playing it fair : everytime. I even kills mobs around for others so they are not bothered by them.

Are you playing it fair : surely NOT. You are acting like you need those hundreds valk shields like there no tomorrow.
Even if you already have 2+ billions in bank. Can't you go hunt something harder ? yes, but you're on easy/not fun/bot/whatever mind

Could i go everywhere else to hunt rare stuff and trying to get zeny ? Yes. I'm doing it.

Before you cry '0mG No0bzoR' or anything else :
- i don't have any acces to god items or mvp cards
- i need zeny to pay my whites for leveling
- i even pay vip to get summoner access

You want more : have a look at all those ppl that hunt GTB, Maya, Eddga, etc etc etc ALL THE DAY, everyday. The only possibility for other player to grab is to 'find' (ie got luck so mvp spawn near) while searching HOURS long for anyone

Yeah you will say : there is a summonner ?

Looks at items needed : if we can't have a hand on regulars mvp, no summon for us.

They even make business on those summoning items (6m to summon eddga? ARE YOU CRAZY ?)

Fair for the casual player : No way, those are mvps they deserve to (put any word here)
Fair for the well geared, well minded player who really want to have fun ? : NO WAY !

Hardcore Camping of the elitist, who play RO on really easy mode ? I let you answer this one


Old summoner was more fun, and made you hunting, instead of just make the rich get richer.

This is finally just DISGUTING, making me : a- Give up on those things, then i run out of zeny in 15k whites. b- Be an-_- myself, to outmvp and steal mobs and drops.

I really prefer the c- option : continue to have fun, grab some oca & valk shields & other drops, so i have enough zeny to continue to have fun. Eventually, one day, mvp card or whatever will make me rich.


So i ask :

When this systems (Mini-boss, mvp, summoner among others) will change so it could be more fair for everyone ?
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Posted 15 August 2011 - 03:28 AM

It's too bad there isn't a class that specializes in healing and such so that you could, like, party them and not have to spend so much on whites.
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Posted 15 August 2011 - 03:29 AM

I'm sorry to tell you this but they don't care to them this is life. This game is their only means of living, so whenever they get the chance to anger someone they do it u should just get used to it they will never stop
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#4 exodius

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 03:32 AM

It's too bad there isn't a class that specializes in healing and such so that you could, like, party them and not have to spend so much on whites.


Says the one that makes MILLIONS of slims whites.

LOL ?
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Posted 15 August 2011 - 03:34 AM

Says the one that makes MILLIONS of slims whites.

LOL ?

Your point?
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#6 Keollyn

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 03:38 AM

Please don't nerf Dimension Door iRO.
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#7 exodius

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 03:43 AM

Your point?


Don't tell me there are priest and other classes and stuff, at lvl 140, leveling is costing zeny. For ANY char (even priest need b.gems), anyone that play this game knows it : you won't level up with 0 zeny. Try to go anywhere with a party at those lvls, you will not level if you don't have some pots for when things go bad.
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Posted 15 August 2011 - 03:44 AM

MVP's are free for all, you get out of the game what you put in. Players with God Items rarely own them as singular beings; guilds own them, and they were allowed to use them.

If you're tired of always losing out, join a guild, build trust, be allowed to borrow god items, get support from AB's.

Stop being so butt hurt at your own shortcomings.

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 04:12 AM

MVP's are free for all, you get out of the game what you put in. Players with God Items rarely own them as singular beings; guilds own them, and they were allowed to use them.

If you're tired of always losing out, join a guild, build trust, be allowed to borrow god items, get support from AB's.

Stop being so butt hurt at your own shortcomings.


MVPs are FFA but minibosses aren't. Valkyrie (not Randgris) is miniboss.
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#10 jake0619

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 04:43 AM

slightly off topic does randgris mobs drop valk shields?
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Posted 15 August 2011 - 05:17 AM

slightly off topic does randgris mobs drop valk shields?


MVP mobs after the first ones don't give exp or drops.
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Posted 15 August 2011 - 05:25 AM

Sounds like they were playing fair. If you're really in desperate need of whites, it seems like you would sell those ales you like to chug.
Some people play this game just to make zeny. We should get the gravestone soon that will let you know when the MvP spawns, so maybe that will help you?
Everyone started at the same place as you, unless they fast forwarded it by spending thousands of dollars.

Shields do not drop from the MvPs mob, they used to, but Insur would hold it and abuse the mob for hours.

Edited by Myzery, 15 August 2011 - 05:27 AM.

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 05:25 AM

I really prefer the c- option : continue to have fun, grab some oca & valk shields & other drops, so i have enough zeny to continue to have fun. Eventually, one day, mvp card or whatever will make me rich.


you criticize people for being rich & out MVPing you;
at the same time you are hoping to become rich by hunting MVPs.


How much zeny do you allow someone to have before they should stop hunting MVPs?
More importantly:
How much zeny is Renouille allowed to make with Slim Potions?

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#14 exodius

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 06:23 AM

i'm not hoping to become rich, i'm just hoping to grab enough zeny so i can continue play my chars.

Selling my green ales ? no way sir, i need sp restoration items to gfist, and having fun with that.
How much zeny someone should have to stop hunting ? Dunno.
How much zeny is Renouille allowed to make with Slim Potions? Same, i dunno. From my point, i really don't know how, even with a lots of guildies, they could do so much potions in just some hours, maybe i don't know how to clic storage properly ?


I'm just ranting about the fact that some players are doing everything to lock out from anyone their zeny income.
I do understand that some of us what mvp cards, i just don't really like the way it's done now.

you criticize people for being rich & out MVPing you;
at the same time you are hoping to become rich by hunting MVPs.


They have the right to outmvp, mvps are free for all. I do not criticize that.
I do not have ANY hope on becoming rich with an 0.0x % drop mvp card. I just have fun mvping, i have fun with pvm too, just need to cash myself for having fun.
And i sometimes refuse to pay millions zeny for an item that drops 10-30%, just because the mob is locked down by some.
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Posted 15 August 2011 - 07:29 AM

Apparently Ales/Yggs are required to play a Sura nowadays. :handshake: Way to through Soul Exhale out of the inventory.
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Posted 15 August 2011 - 09:26 AM

You weren't tanking it, so it wasn't yours. If you Wing or move away to let someone else tank it it's then theirs.

Also, I've never seen a GFist do over a million damage...

Please try comping Suras and Genetics on a Royal Guard like I do. That's sure fun when no one plays fairly. >_>
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Posted 15 August 2011 - 09:35 AM

You weren't tanking it, so it wasn't yours. If you Wing or move away to let someone else tank it it's then theirs.

Also, I've never seen a GFist do over a million damage...

Please try comping Suras and Genetics on a Royal Guard like I do. That's sure fun when no one plays fairly. >_>


Try doing it on a Mech like i do. Now that is excitment :handshake:
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Posted 15 August 2011 - 10:04 AM

true, this game its based on the scum elite that gms love(genetics and suras) even that stupid mvp summoner its only for those classes than can camp mvps (genetic and sura) they put fixed cast time on all magic skills and many other classes (except genetic and sura) all the god items are REALLY AWESOME FOR 2 CLASSES(genetic and sura) skills with 100% succes rate(genetic and sura)

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 10:29 AM

true, this game its based on the scum elite that gms love(genetics and suras) even that stupid mvp summoner its only for those classes than can camp mvps (genetic and sura) they put fixed cast time on all magic skills and many other classes (except genetic and sura) all the god items are REALLY AWESEOM FOR 2 CLASSES(genetic and sura) skills with 100% succes rate(genetic and sura)


No, no, no.
You got it all wrong.

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 11:23 PM

Some of the summoner items for mvps are buyable from npcs and some of the summon items you can buy for reasonable prices from the market. ET requires no items. You get out what you put in.
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