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[jamie512]

If you have all your advance IM buffs max from levelling your buffing skills. can you do a skill reset and keep your advance buffs? this way you wont have to use skill points
on your buffs again and they can go towards other skills like your passives and atk skills? Or will this reduce the effect of your adv buffs so they're not as powerful?

[GilGrissom]

With having all IM advanced buff skills you can do a (normal) skill reset. You will keep all the IM adv buffs and they keep their effect as before. So no change! The height in INT stat makes every buff/heal change. The higher the INT (957 max) the powerfull the buff will be.

[bl4ckm4ge9]

If you have all your advance IM buffs max from levelling your buffing skills. can you do a skill reset and keep your advance buffs? this way you wont have to use skill points
on your buffs again and they can go towards other skills like your passives and atk skills? Or will this reduce the effect of your adv buffs so they're not as powerful?

ive been thinking this for a couple of weeks already havent tried about it yet.. i will just wait to somebody to do this cause i dont want to waste a JSRB for this cause i think this considers to be hacking.. and hacking is not good.. u r just buying urself a ticket to be banned..

I am glad u brought this topic for GM attention.. You must have done this secretly and keep it secret.. lock it under the basement

Edited by bl4ckm4ge9, 24 August 2011 - 03:57 AM.

[Lucis]

--it's more appropriate to call it an exploit, not a hack. This method effectively allows one to make a "party - only full support" battle cleric. And I have observed clerics that are like this.

[Soaked]

ive been thinking this for a couple of weeks already havent tried about it yet.. i will just wait to somebody to do this cause i dont want to waste a JSRB for this cause i think this considers to be hacking.. and hacking is not good.. u r just buying urself a ticket to be banned..

I am glad u brought this topic for GM attention.. You must have done this secretly and keep it secret.. lock it under the basement

LOL. ALL decent battleclerics do this.. Its no an exploit, theres a requirement to have the other buff before. because otherwise you could have all buffs on low lvl.
Althou you have to lvl the skill to max, I dont consider this as an exploit.

[bl4ckm4ge9]

am i missing the boat or we are just talking about two completely different thing?

[Soaked]

am i missing the boat or we are just talking about two completely different thing?

If you have all your advance IM buffs max from levelling your buffing skills. can you do a skill reset and keep your advance buffs? this way you wont have to use skill points
on your buffs again and they can go towards other skills like your passives and atk skills? Or will this reduce the effect of your adv buffs so they're not as powerful?

This is the topic?
So once u have learned the normal buffs. and then the IM ones. Use a skill reset and the IM ones stay and will still be useable.

I asume that what u said was on topic?

[MidnightSmurf]

I brought this up some time ago as well^^

On the Adv. buffs it clearly says that the "normal" buff is required in order to get the Adv. buff. Personally I reckon this to be very faulty (that you can then reskill and still use Adv. buffs) and indeed an exploit by me and many others - not a very severe one tho. I hope they fix it if this isn't intended.. And if it is intended I highly dislike it since they make a BC dependent on IM.

Edited by MidnightSmurf, 24 August 2011 - 05:23 AM.

[Soaked]

I brought this up some time ago as well^^

On the Adv. buffs it clearly says that the "normal" buff is required in order to get the Adv. buff. Personally I reckon this to be very faulty (that you can then reskill and still use Adv. buffs) and indeed an exploit by me and many others - not a very severe one tho. I hope they fix it if this isn't intended.. And if it is intended I highly dislike it since they make a BC dependent on IM.

True, But what about the IM passives? I know that 80% is using them on thier main ^^

[MidnightSmurf]

True, But what about the IM passives? I know that 80% is using them on thier main ^^

Also true, but not entirely the same thing since that goes for all classes. Why would BC class have to pay extra IM and still be.. decent at best.

I would rather see that Adv buff really required the normal buffs and that they slightly increased their attacking abilities. Then you could choose being a BC but not have any buffs, and use pots or another cleric to buff you.

[Soaked]

Also true, but not entirely the same thing since that goes for all classes. Why would BC class have to pay extra IM and still be.. decent at best.

I would rather see that Adv buff really required the normal buffs and that they slightly increased their attacking abilities. Then you could choose being a BC but not have any buffs, and use pots or another cleric to buff you.

True, But no one forces you to buy it. you can do without them, but you will lose some advantage. I think its a shame in the first place that IM gives u and edge in combat. Althou skill > slightly better gear and stuff. Id like to see IM for costumes and stuff without the recycle winding :S

[Kaizy]

It's meant to be that way or at least used to be meant to be that way. Why would a normal skill reset reset your Item mall skills? Every time you want to reset your skills, should you have to buy all the item mall skills over again?

Also the descriptions don't say required to use it. They say required to learn it as it is a prerequisite probably to avoid low levels having cleric buffs before they're a cleric.

You won't be a very effective BC anyways if you just learn these and buff yourself.

[Soaked]

It's meant to be that way or at least used to be meant to be that way. Why would a normal skill reset reset your Item mall skills? Every time you want to reset your skills, should you have to buy all the item mall skills over again?

Also the descriptions don't say required to use it. They say required to learn it as it is a prerequisite probably to avoid low levels having cleric buffs before they're a cleric.

You won't be a very effective BC anyways if you just learn these and buff yourself.

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[Kaizy]

Hail kaizy.

Now reply to the mail i send you... i wantz answerzzz

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[jamie512]

thanks for your input guys. i guess i'll do it. just need to sacrifice having to pt people to buff them, which could get quite irritating

[Soaked]

thanks for your input guys. i guess i'll do it. just need to sacrifice having to pt people to buff them, which could get quite irritating

Best is to have another cleric that is max int (full support) and buff your battle cleric with that. [Thats how id do it if i had one]