23 replies to this topic

[DieNasty]

I know you're not going to check these kind of threads because if you did none of the bugged would have happened. Anyway I would like to say thank you for giving me the chance to save up my money after what happened during this week's maint. I have made a personal commitment to never buy your Lucky Packs again. I spent $200 USD on your lucky boxes and all i got was a bunch of Virgo Diadems/Crowns. Your fix for this was to let me upgrade them to +5 or trade them in for even more lucky boxes--which will ultimately give me more Virgo's hat. Don't you think this is a bit of a catch-22?

[shado]

Don't be mad at them because you want to pay2win and it failed.
If anything, you should be mad that the option is even available.

[Cubical]

im more salty over spending the money and they just gave bonus points starting today

[DieNasty]

You're right Shado, I did pay to gain, but failed because of who? That's right the very folks who wants me to pay to gain . Trust me they wants people like me to buy em. If I didn't then who's going to pay their bills?

Anyway since I am not gaining anything out of it why should I continue to pay hundred of dollars if I'm not going to get anything out of it?

[Seiken7]

Hey DieNasty I do understand your frustration about this "money making business." Only I can tell you is business is not being run in kindness or charity its either more microtransaction like where you don't need to buy it but if you buy it you will experience convenience. But I do believe there is something wrong with the "Lucky" is it lucky or sucky? boxes. I tried it for 2500KP and all i got is 6 Virgo Crowns, 3 Virgo Diadems and 1 taming set. Hmm... something wrong with the % of other stuff, just saying guys.

[DieNasty]

Glad someone understands. You would probably feel the same if your $200 hundreds went down the drain too. My message for today is simple, don't let stuff like this happen again and I'll be glad to hand over my cash to you.

[shado]

You're right Shado, I did pay to gain, but failed because of who? That's right the very folks who wants me to pay to gain . Trust me they wants people like me to buy em. If I didn't then who's going to pay their bills?

Anyway since I am not gaining anything out of it why should I continue to pay hundred of dollars if I'm not going to get anything out of it?

Maybe if people like you would stop sending them piles of cash every box event, they would stop getting so damned greedy and actually look at the issues the game now faces. After that, they might even fix some of them.

Yes, you can argue Dollars = Development, but not when the iRO staff doesn't have for say over anything being developed. You are paying the to host the server, and to manage it. The game is constantly lagged, even from only one timezone away/best internet available/custom built gaming comp. The servers are infested with bots, with no attempt being made to slow or extinguish them. The updates that they do add, with maintenance being extended regularly, usually with multiple next-day resets/take downs, add such little content that they are pointless, and only serve to create more issues instead of fixing current once that greatly effect woe/pvp/pvm/everything.
They often can not replicate the issues regarding their updates themselves, and require player input and multiple screenshots to even convince them that there is a flaw occuring.

I could go on and on and on, but I have better things to do.
tldr: Why do you pay these people? They suck at their job, and don't give a about you as a player. All they want is $$$$$

[FiskBlack]

They are called "Lucky" for something, im sorry if you get butthurt, but is the true.

[Heimdallr]

I do spend about $200+ each lucky box myself..

The % of items coming out is calculated on the dollar amount the item is worth vs its % gain. The virgos are 500 Brownie points. We could have lowered the % for those and made it so more of the Class D items came from the box, you would have gotten more "diversity" from the box but ultimately if you trade in it would be fewer Brownie points earned.

There was never any intention of "ripping" anyone off, but we can't make the class A/B/S items be common else it would destroy the value of the Kafra shop and the game balance. Currently the class A items are ~ $15-25 class S = $40 B~ $8 C~$5 and D =$3

We set it this way so that there isn't a "losing Lucky Box" like giving you a Pink Hat [1] for your $3 lucky box (which other versions do).

[odey]

Maybe if people like you would stop sending them piles of cash every box event, they would stop getting so damned greedy and actually look at the issues the game now faces. After that, they might even fix some of them.

Yes, you can argue Dollars = Development, but not when the iRO staff doesn't have for say over anything being developed. You are paying the to host the server, and to manage it. The game is constantly lagged, even from only one timezone away/best internet available/custom built gaming comp. The servers are infested with bots, with no attempt being made to slow or extinguish them. The updates that they do add, with maintenance being extended regularly, usually with multiple next-day resets/take downs, add such little content that they are pointless, and only serve to create more issues instead of fixing current once that greatly effect woe/pvp/pvm/everything.
They often can not replicate the issues regarding their updates themselves, and require player input and multiple screenshots to even convince them that there is a flaw occuring.

I could go on and on and on, but I have better things to do.
tldr: Why do you pay these people? They suck at their job, and don't give a about you as a player. All they want is $$$$$

PRAISE JESUS!!!! FINALY PEOPLE ON FORUMS WITH REALTALK

[nosurrender]

I do spend about $200+ each lucky box myself..

The % of items coming out is calculated on the dollar amount the item is worth vs its % gain. The virgos are 500 Brownie points. We could have lowered the % for those and made it so more of the Class D items came from the box, you would have gotten more "diversity" from the box but ultimately if you trade in it would be fewer Brownie points earned.

There was never any intention of "ripping" anyone off, but we can't make the class A/B/S items be common else it would destroy the value of the Kafra shop and the game balance. Currently the class A items are ~ $15-25 class S = $40 B~ $8 C~$5 and D =$3

We set it this way so that there isn't a "losing Lucky Box" like giving you a Pink Hat [1] for your $3 lucky box (which other versions do).

wow this is actually amazingly accurate. ever since lucky boxes were implemented I did get 1 S class item per $40

[odey]

I do spend about $200+ each lucky box myself..

The % of items coming out is calculated on the dollar amount the item is worth vs its % gain. The virgos are 500 Brownie points. We could have lowered the % for those and made it so more of the Class D items came from the box, you would have gotten more "diversity" from the box but ultimately if you trade in it would be fewer Brownie points earned.

There was never any intention of "ripping" anyone off, but we can't make the class A/B/S items be common else it would destroy the value of the Kafra shop and the game balance. Currently the class A items are ~ $15-25 class S = $40 B~ $8 C~$5 and D =$3

We set it this way so that there isn't a "losing Lucky Box" like giving you a Pink Hat [1] for your $3 lucky box (which other versions do).

UMM ALL LUCKY BOX EVENTS DESTROY GAME BALANCE. This game has totaly been split between people who get rich off of lucky boxes and people who dont. Since renewel has come there is almost no way of making money ingame and is totaly unfair for people who dont buy boxes and sell WPE. Money making options are only ET or get lucky and find a an mvp card and thats it

[Trini]

Give me my diversity please. I would trade in Virgo Diadem/Crown for 2 Bloody Branches or Slotting Adds any day.

[Scott]

I got 1 Crown and 1 Diadem from around 15 boxes.

[CeruleanGamer]

Maybe if people like you would stop sending them piles of cash every box event, they would stop getting so damned greedy and actually look at the issues the game now faces. After that, they might even fix some of them.

Yes, you can argue Dollars = Development, but not when the iRO staff doesn't have for say over anything being developed. You are paying the to host the server, and to manage it. The game is constantly lagged, even from only one timezone away/best internet available/custom built gaming comp. The servers are infested with bots, with no attempt being made to slow or extinguish them. The updates that they do add, with maintenance being extended regularly, usually with multiple next-day resets/take downs, add such little content that they are pointless, and only serve to create more issues instead of fixing current once that greatly effect woe/pvp/pvm/everything.
They often can not replicate the issues regarding their updates themselves, and require player input and multiple screenshots to even convince them that there is a flaw occuring.

I could go on and on and on, but I have better things to do.
tldr: Why do you pay these people? They suck at their job, and don't give a about you as a player. All they want is $$$$$

The smartest thing I've heard in the forums for the month.

If bots were permabanned (fully stripped of everything they have earned and have and IP addressed tracked in case of transfers) instead of 2-3 day ban (urghhh, we asked iRO GM20 to ban a bot but he was only gone for 2 days), there would be less motivation to bot and people would actually care to learn and play the game.

Unfortunately this isn't the case and people just keep botting and botting and passing themselves as legit. Thing is, they think you're stupid and are not aware they botted once they are 140-150 and decide to play the game without bots.

Anyways, there is really lack of customer support in regards to reporting bots. Tickets are responded in such a tedious amount of time and the process itself is as well. There is also no guarantee they'll ban the bot and you will need to screenshot as many as you can to form a "solid" proof for Warpportal support to accept..

Edited by CeruleanGamer, 26 August 2011 - 05:36 PM.

[Braska]

The smartest thing I've heard in the forums for the month.

If bots were permabanned (fully stripped of everything they have earned and have and IP addressed tracked in case of transfers) instead of 2-3 day ban (urghhh, we asked iRO GM20 to ban a bot but he was only gone for 2 days), there would be less motivation to bot and people would actually care to learn and play the game.

Unfortunately this isn't the case and people just keep botting and botting and passing themselves as legit. Thing is, they think you're stupid and are not aware they botted once they are 140-150 and decide to play the game without bots.

Anyways, there is really lack of customer support in regards to reporting bots. Tickets are responded in such a tedious amount of time and the process itself is as well. There is also no guarantee they'll ban the bot and you will need to screenshot as many as you can to form a "solid" proof for Warpportal support to accept..

Youre making this sound easier then what it actually is. You can't really IP ban someone to begin with(you can but you can use a proxy to get around it, which is what most of the zeny sellers do. You can ban the account, but you can just make another one and back to step one. A solution would be to develop something that detects 3rd party programs when running RO and put a "freeze" on them.

Edited by Braska, 26 August 2011 - 06:17 PM.

[Inubashiri]

Youre making this sound easier then what it actually is. You can't really IP ban someone to begin with(you can but you can use a proxy to get around it, which is what most of the zeny sellers do. You can ban the account, but you can just make another one and back to step one. A solution would be to develop something that detects 3rd party programs when running RO and put a "freeze" on them.

Let me extend more what I think you're talking about...something like Gameguard or HackShield (I think its called). But usually those have to be constantly updated because people find a way around them but certainly it deters a good number of people.

Edited by Inubashiri, 26 August 2011 - 06:18 PM.

[Braska]

Yes that is the one i am talking about.If we had that, RO might be able to stop the Zeny farmers with a Gameguard or Hackshield system, can't say much about who prob know kore like their own backyard, but it "should" stop the majority of the Zeny farmers. The rest can be taken care of manually.

Edited by Braska, 26 August 2011 - 06:25 PM.

[sukidayo]

you people want bots removed? boycott iro until bots are gone. don't complain in the forums, that won't do anything. people have complained for YEARS and nothing has been done.

as i have said in a previous post, as long as players continue playing and paying there is no reason for iro to take them seriously.

[Braska]

Just for clarification purposes, you want everyone to stop paying so the game dies and there won't be any bots because there is no game? That's just genius

[Inubashiri]

Theology aside...we all agree the bots must go...period! To that end we've been brainstorming ideas and I know Heim is in discussions with 3rd party companies who specialize in this area. I don't know the specifics about it but hopefully something gets ironed out at some point.

[shado]

I like how this goes from lucky box qq to bots.

Edited by Inubashiri, 26 August 2011 - 08:50 PM.

[sukidayo]

Just for clarification purposes, you want everyone to stop paying so the game dies and there won't be any bots because there is no game? That's just genius

the point is to stop playing/paying UNTIL iro resolves the bot problem.

but don't worry, that won't happen. only geniuses like me participate in boycotts.

[FatalityX]

Ive spent over 3000usd on kp this year over all my accounts... Each time a new box comes out , a few days later you guys have a bonus KP event which I always miss. Getting rather annoyed bout it but what can I do. Spent 200$ on lucky boxes myself. I feel kinda ripped off now with this bonus kp event.

Hate how this always happeneds. Always miss out on bonus headgears etc just because I spend my money on KP 1 or 2 days before the bonus events come out. I wish you guys would give us prior knowledge of these bonus events. Id like to take advantage of em instead of feeling 'butthurt'.

Ive had enough. I will be stopping my KP spending. No more WP Energy for me.

Anyways nothing I can do, suppose its my fault for spending my hard earned money here.

PS. There should be backpay of kp for the last week or so. Or some sort of 30 day price match. But then again we do not live in a perfect world.

Edited by FatalityX, 27 August 2011 - 12:37 AM.