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[MotherOneDog]

Current Equipment:

1) +11 Triple Aural Slicing Specialty Jur
2) +9 Mercury Riser[1]
3) Arta's Elven Ears
4) Well-chewed Pencil
5) +4 Pressure Dragon Manteau
6) +5 Dragon Vest of Agility Switching
7) +4 Wing Boots
8) Coward's Bradium Brooch
9) Swift Bradium Brooch

It's basically the Thief Card Set.

Future Equipment:

1) +9/+10 Aural Durga[1]
2) +9 Mercury Riser[1]
3) Arta's Elven Ears
4) Well-chewed Pencil
5) +7 Diabolus Manteau[1]/+7 Skin of Ventus[1] (need advice on which garment is better and what to card each with)
6) +7 Diabolus Armor [1](+3STR) (need advice on what to card it with)
7) +9 Superior Diabolus Boots
8) Rogue's Treasure
9) Rogue's Treasure

I already have some of these equipment. I'm going for Crit Build as a GX, too. Essentially, I'm giving up a good amount of attack speed for more HP and Def. Is this advisable though? Or is my current equipment sufficient for my GX?

This is the stat build I'm aiming for (the +x beside each base stat are stats I get from Job Bonus & Gears without buffs):

STR: 115+15
AGI: 100+7
DEX: 40+8
INT: 30+4
VIT: 75+5
LUK: 72+0

HP: 29566
SP: 898
Hit: 417
Flee: 431
Crit: 112 (chose to go more than 100 to counter mob's Crit Shield)

I'm currently not into WOE yet. So is this build with so much HP effective for PvM? Or should I invest some points into some other stat instead of so much VIT?

P.S. I used Wushuang Renewal Calc so I don't know how accurate that is.

Edited by MotherOneDog, 09 September 2011 - 11:10 AM.

[MotherOneDog]

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[Noumi]

Crit builds normally keep their Int at 1. If you are worried about too little SP recovery, I rather you add till 77 Luk and card your elven ears with Arc Angeling. 40 Dex is ok if you are trying to hit with CS but once you are 150/50 you should reset and bring dex back to 1 already. 115 str is abit on the high side. Str doesn't scale exponentially already so adding close to 120 is quite a waste. you may want to get 100 total vit for the status immunity.

For PVP WOE GX imo, you should aim to add agi till you hit 186 aspd. 100 agi is ok if you are willing to use agi +20 foods. the magic number 186 will give you 193 ASPD on using a +9 KVM Katar when its ability procs.

Also I'm pretty sure a +7 Little Feather Hat is better than mecury riser for Crit Gx due to the additional 20% crit damage.

The diab manteau is obviously better than the ventus since it adds HP with your diab boot.

Pirate Dagger should be better than the pencil.

[MotherOneDog]

Hey, Noumi! Thanks for the advice! I don't intend to get an AA card (I usually am 50% overweight so it's kinda pointless for me) so this is what I built around not having one:

STR: 95+15
AGI: 110+7 (or -/+ until I get 186 Atkspd)
DEX: 30+8
VIT: 105+5
INT: 21+4
LUK: 72+0

If I need more to hit 186 Atkspd, I'll take some points off INT. How does this stat build look? Is it more viable?

Edited by MotherOneDog, 09 September 2011 - 08:45 PM.

[renzallen]

For PVP WOE GX imo, you should aim to add agi till you hit 186 aspd. 100 agi is ok if you are willing to use agi +20 foods. the magic number 186 will give you 193 ASPD on using a +9 KVM Katar when its ability procs.

Also I'm pretty sure a +7 Little Feather Hat is better than mecury riser for Crit Gx due to the additional 20% crit damage.

The diab manteau is obviously better than the ventus since it adds HP with your diab boot.

Pirate Dagger should be better than the pencil.

What's a KVM Katar? How much is this ? I can't seem to find it on ragial. And right now I have a dragon vest, should I invest to diabolus?

[MotherOneDog]

What's a KVM Katar? How much is this ? I can't seem to find it on ragial. And right now I have a dragon vest, should I invest to diabolus?

A KVM Katar is obtained by joining Battleground games. It's like a small-scale WoE, I believe. You get medals/badges when you play those and they can be traded in for special character-bound equipment.

[Noumi]

A KVM Katar is obtained by joining Battleground games. It's like a small-scale WoE, I believe. You get medals/badges when you play those and they can be traded in for special character-bound equipment.

KVM doesn't use a badge system like the other 2 battle grounds I believe. They use a point system. 2000 points to get a KVM katar. links here:

Battlegrounds
KVM Katar

@MotherOneDog:

95+5 Vit should be enough. just 100 is required for the status defence. You may want to switch to 105+15 Str instead

[MotherOneDog]

@renzallen Lol, my bad. Wrong info. Heh.

@Noumi Aite, thanks a lot! I thought it was base VIT = 100 for immunity.

[renzallen]

@renzallen Lol, my bad. Wrong info. Heh.

@Noumi Aite, thanks a lot! I thought it was base VIT = 100 for immunity.

Don't worry about it. Everyone does. Lol, so about the VIT? Do you really need 100? And btw which is a good set for my GX? Any idea guys?

[MotherOneDog]

Don't worry about it. Everyone does. Lol, so about the VIT? Do you really need 100? And btw which is a good set for my GX? Any idea guys?

Yeah, 100 VIT gives immunity. Well, I've been using the Thief Set as you can see. It's served me well. The perma Increase AGI walking speed is awesome. Makes grinding SOOOOOO much more pleasant. LOL. But I believe the best set for GX would most likely NOT be the Thief Set. If it helps any, this is what I'm gonna do. Maybe you can take a look to get an idea of what others are going for. Then you can build an equip set unique to yourself.

Headgear: +9 Rideword Hat[1] / +9 Mercury Riser[1] (with such high atkspd and crit dmg, RWH's lifesteal is awesome. saves a lot on pots)
Headgear: Arta's Elven Ears
Headgear: Pirate Dagger
Armor: +7~+9 Ares Diabolus Armor[1] (+3 STR/AGI Enchant)
Garment: +7~+9 Immune Diabolus Manteau
Footgear: +9 Superior Diabolus Boots
Accessory: Athletic Bradium Brooch
Accessory: Athletic Bradium Brooch

Leans towards ATKSPD (You could also use a +7 Little Feather Hat[1] to compensate for the lack in DPS gears)

OR

Headgear: +7 Arta's Little Feather Hat[1]
Headgear: Arta's Elven Ears
Headgear: Pirate Dagger
Armor: +7~+9 Ares Diabolus Armor[1] (+3 STR/AGI Enchant)
Garment: +7~+9 Immune Diabolus Manteau
Footgear: +9 Superior Diabolus Boots
Accessory: Rogue's Treasure
Accessory: Rogue's Treasure / Cold Heart

Leans towards DPS (the two RTs can help save you quite a lot of points on LUK which you could invest in AGI to compensate for the lack of ATKSPD gears)

Hope this helps!!! ^^

[renzallen]

Would you rather have a Diabolus Set than a dragon set?

[MotherOneDog]

You mean Dragon Vest/Dragon Manteau? Well, yeah. That combi gives +5 AGI and 20 Flee. Essentially it only gives +5 AGI (at least that's how I feel) because 20 Flee is almost negligible for GX. They already get 40 more Flee than other classes (except 40-15=25 more Flee if compared to Monks) and we're kinda the only class that really goes for 100~120 AGI. That means we'll have 400++ Flee at least. That's kinda more than enough to 95% evade normal mobs that don't have ridiculous HIT. So back to the point, if we use the Dragon Set, we'll only benefit from the +5 AGI which most likely won't even give us a whole +1 Atkspd boost.

As for the Diabolus Set, we get more HP+DEF. A lot of guides tell us that just Flee alone isn't good enough a defense. We need to couple it with DEF (or VIT) as well. Diabolus Armor gives +150HP, +2STR, +1Dex and +5% Resistance to some statuses. Also, it gives 60 more DEF than the Dragon Vest. If you get a Peco Peco Card in it, you'll get tons of HP along with much better DEF rate. Diabolus Manteau doesn't give a lot more DEF but it has -5% Neutral Property Reduction. If you slot it with a Raydric card, -25% Neutral Property reduction. If you get a Diabolus Boots to go along with it, you get +6% Max HP. Also, if you slot a +9 Diabolus Boots with a Firelock Card, that's +2 STR, +10% HP/SP.

So if you compare the two sets, Diabolus Set has so much more to offer and it only costs you that little bit of AGI and Flee. I personally find that highly worth it. If you want a more straightforward answer, just compare the prices of the two sets! That should easily tell you which is better! The cheapest D.Boots[1] is already worth more than the Dragon Set and the cards you wanna slot them with.

I did some calculations on a stat calc and if you do the Diabolus Set + Cards, you can reach up to 35,000HP with 401Flee (only if you decide to get 95+5 VIT like I plan to do. 401+20=421Flee if you decide to slot with Whisper Card. Although I highly recommend Raydric Card.) If you use Dragon Set, you'll have about 30,000HP with 421Flee (that's ONLY if you still decide to get 95+5 VIT. 421+20=441Flee if you decide to slot with Whisper Card.)

35,000HP + 401Flee OR 30,000HP + 421Flee

All up to you!!!!!!!!!!!


Hope this helped you with your choice! ^^

Edited by MotherOneDog, 11 September 2011 - 02:05 PM.

[CeruleanGamer]

Other cards to consider:

Odium of Thanatos = -5 AGI, +1 AGI per refine
Orc Baby = +10 Flee/10% resistance to Neutral, if added to +9 Garment, becomes +15 flee/15% resistance to Neutral
Venatu = +1 LUK for every 18 base AGI
Ancient Mimic = +1 AGI for every 18 base LUK
Porcellio = +25 ATK, -5 DEF

EDIT:
Nine Tail = +2 Agi, if added to +9 Garment, +20 Flee
Alicel = +10 Flee, -5 DEF
Deviruchi = +1 STR, Blind immunity
Nightmare = +1 AGI, Sleep immunity

Edited by CeruleanGamer, 11 September 2011 - 07:28 PM.

[MotherOneDog]

@CeruleanGamer Yep, those, too! Thanks for adding that!

[azmandual]

offensive gears for high damage output

1) +9/higher glorious jamadhar
2) +7 little feather hat + sharp arrow
3) lord knight carded glasses/ears or whatever u want
4) ever heard of four leaf clover? 3 luk and some mdef ^^
5) +10 valkyrie manteau [green maiden]
6) naga armor str+3 with porcellio
7) +9 superior d.boots
8&9) two RTs/RT + RoFL/RoFL + RoR/RT + Meg/RoFL + Meg/two Megs ^^

u can use KVM badge as alternative to KVM point. if you have both their points stack additively.

Edited by azmandual, 27 September 2011 - 12:32 AM.