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[Ririna]

Diabolus Boots with Diabolus Manteau give more HP (for a bishop) than Variants with Nidhoggur's, but Nidhoggur's gives 7% resistance to all elements (Diab Mant gives 5% resist to neutral) and more SP and Variants also give more SP.
I'm not sure which one I should pick... I'm archbishop

Thanks for advice

[Mefistofeles]

Judgment set...............

[Xellie]

I'd make the choice based on the nid. Defence is <3

[asayuu]

For now... I think you should get the highest HP as possible... For now.

If something new comes, check if it's better.

[Xellie]

HP isn't a huge deal on archbishop, you have heal, so HP is mostly unlimited, so long as your vit isn't so low that you have... no hp or no status resistance, reducing your damage should come foremost with hp second then SP.

Just my thoughts. I have 3 Arch bishops!

[Ririna]

Judgment set...............

LOL. I'd love to see that but I think we won't see Judgement Set for a long time...

On WoE HP is important, but for me it's hard to choice between Nid and Diabolus

Offtopic: Miku <3

Edited by Ririna, 12 September 2011 - 05:53 PM.

[Xellie]

For WoE? Definately the nid! 7% is a bigger reduction than 5%! plus you get the elemental resistance. Diab boots give hp on their own, so it's worth checking the dia boots + nid etc like that.

[Ririna]

For WoE? Definately the nid! 7% is a bigger reduction than 5%! plus you get the elemental resistance. Diab boots give hp on their own, so it's worth checking the dia boots + nid etc like that.

Maybe. I have a Nid's, but a friend (He's archbishop too) told me to get the Diab combo

[Mefistofeles]

For WoE? Definately the nid! 7% is a bigger reduction than 5%! plus you get the elemental resistance. Diab boots give hp on their own, so it's worth checking the dia boots + nid etc like that.

elemental ressistance? for????????? >_>

[Zinja]

Judgement Set FTW!.
i use nid+ variants on both my AB. while killing or supporting/tanking defense for me is always top priority

[Xellie]

elemental ressistance? for????????? >_>

Stop trolling.

GXes, incase you're ACTUALLY that goddamn stupid.

[Xellie]

Honestly I'm reading about the judgement set and I don't think I'm going to use it. The matk of the staff isn't that fantastic.... I guess it would allow to use a shield with it but it's not worth it for adoramus. (my adoramus does 28k @ level 130)

and if heal boosting is better than defence (which its not) why don't most priests wear dress hat? Besides without knowing the defence of the gear, it's a really tough call to make. It probably makes your squishy as hell for "balance"

Edited by Xellie, 13 September 2011 - 12:03 AM.

[Zinja]

Judgement Mace
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STR + 2, INT + 2, MATK + 180.
When dealing physical or magical damage, there's a chance to gain a bonus 40% damage to demon monsters for 7 seconds.
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When equipped in combination with the Judgement Robe, Shoes, and Shawl:
Increases physical and magical damage to undead property monsters by 30%.
Increases Adoramus damage by 200%, and increases Adoramus SP cost by 30.
Greatly decreases the variable casting time of offensive magic abilities.
----------------------
Type: Mace
Atk: 170
Property: Neutral
Weight: 120
Wep Lv: 3
Req Lv: 130
Req Job: Arch Bishop

/...

[Xellie]

Like I said, -_-ty matk.

Stats Atk 120 MAtk 210 Dex +4

That's the staff I use. There's a possibility that when combined with the spirit ring / clip combo, maybe it'll make ME stronger .. but I doubt it because of the fact it's only a level 3 weapon. Also, do we know if it's one handed or two handed. How much defence does the rest of the set give? Would I be better off AOE killing with over 50% demon resistance or with that set? 90% of anything Adoramus has elemental advantage against is killable with ME, therefore it's not a viable levelling skill in comparsion (the majority of the time)

It's REALLY iffy.

Edited by Xellie, 13 September 2011 - 12:35 AM.

[Clogon]

@Ririna:

If you are into WoE then why use that Judgement Set when Affection Set is so much better for a support AB? Heck the Affection Shoes alone ins WIN! +500 HP and +10% Demi Human Resistance! Don't forget that the Mora sets can be enchanted! You can get even more HP/Vit/Int/Dex or what ever else you want. =/

[Ririna]

@Ririna:

If you are into WoE then why use that Judgement Set when Affection Set is so much better for a support AB? Heck the Affection Shoes alone ins WIN! +500 HP and +10% Demi Human Resistance! Don't forget that the Mora sets can be enchanted! You can get even more HP/Vit/Int/Dex or what ever else you want. =/

I didn't talk about judgemet set lol. Judgement is for Adoramus bishie lol. I guess I'll make another AB for Adoramus xD

The discussion was about Diabolus vs Nid's

Edited by Ririna, 13 September 2011 - 09:14 AM.

[Mefistofeles]

no, jugdment set also have a new gear on shoes that reduce 10%damage from demi humans...... jugdment set its the best

[Clogon]

@Mefistofeles:
Not it doesn't. Judgement set is ONLY for anti demon and undead. Care to show your source that says it reduces demi human? Wearing the Judgement set will make you take MORE damage from demi human. <.<

@Ririna:
Mid way through this post you seemed to be considering the judgement set. =/

[Mefistofeles]

@Mefistofeles:
Not it doesn't. Judgement set is ONLY for anti demon and undead. Care to show your source that says it reduces demi human? Wearing the Judgement set will make you take MORE damage from demi human. <.<

@Ririna:
Mid way through this post you seemed to be considering the judgement set. =/

with the patch of jugdment set theres a gear on shoes that reduces 10% damage from demi-humans let me find it and i will post the source
http://rune-nifelheim.com/item/2471/

Edited by Mefistofeles, 13 September 2011 - 11:35 AM.

[Xellie]

Wow wrong shoes mefisto.

Stop tooting about the set that isnt even out and we don't even know when we'll get it. The op wants to know about nid vs diab.

@ Ririna
Have you considered nid garb + diab boots? I think you'd get more HP from carding with matyr into diab (or the acidus one I guess) and you get the nid defence and resist.

Edited by Xellie, 13 September 2011 - 12:06 PM.

[Mefistofeles]

Wow wrong shoes mefisto.

Stop tooting about the set that isnt even out and we don't even know when we'll get it. The op wants to know about nid vs diab.

@ Ririna
Have you considered nid garb + diab boots? I think you'd get more HP from carding with matyr into diab (or the acidus one I guess) and you get the nid defence and resist.

becouse i suggesting to dont waste zeny on gears that will be usless

[Ririna]

Wow wrong shoes mefisto.

Stop tooting about the set that isnt even out and we don't even know when we'll get it. The op wants to know about nid vs diab.

@ Ririna
Have you considered nid garb + diab boots? I think you'd get more HP from carding with matyr into diab (or the acidus one I guess) and you get the nid defence and resist.

Kinda

[Mefistofeles]

Kinda

para que me molesto >_>

[asayuu]

Oh yes... Diabolus with Nidhoggur is a good option too.

But it also depends of the cards you want to put. And what you want to protect. 7% is not so much compared to 5% [When we talk only about neutral], but compared to 0% [the other elements], it's okay.

Variants is better for most classes, mainly on the higher HP mods. You talk about 20% extra HP, while Matyr / Green Ferus Diabolus + Diabolus Manteau gives 16% + 1500 [I know you are 150, Ririna].

In all the cases. Strip tease yourself, and print here. Oh wait, I just want to see your HP without any gear~~~~ ^_^

[Ririna]

para que me molesto >_>

Uh, no entendí acá che.