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[YmirOdin]

Here is the thing playing with GX in PvP / WoE

Like every GX player have had experienced the class its self is relatively disadvantaged

1. With Katar class weaps you are not able to equip shield

That is missing out on ALOT of DEF and 30%race reduction.
If we cant use shields together with are main weap atleast let us have an amazing fire power
but its is very similar with other classes with all the skills we put into katar and hand mastery
(for example a RK can out dmg and aspd us with berzerk pots + two-hand quicken and have more HP than us!!) - allow GX to use berserk pots !!!

2. Skills - Cloaking Exceed / Dark Illusion / H.Walk

Cloadking Exceed - One of the main advantage (or even a purpose) of being an Assassin Cross and GX is to have the ability or specialty if u like of cloaking. This now is pretty much just walking faster in black color.
With all the Maya Purple on the server the Cloaking ability (a HUGE element being an assassin class) has gone tits up. You are no longer able to put people into fear cause they all see u and "/heh".
Being able to Cloak Exceed (as the name stated "EXCEED") and not being sighted by MP card (nevermind being sighted with skill sight and ruwach) will put us GX back in the game with some sort of advantage (at least getting the first hit lolz)

Dark Illusion - even if it is allowed in WoE it would be extremely useless. As soon as u blink to the enemy and deal 1 X stupid damage u've left with some time gap where they can smash you with all the skills they have. Even with CI proc with edp formula changes and poor damage of CI your pretty much done.
If they can alter the skill and allow just a FULL NO LAG/GAP Blink (perhaps with ctl click attack) and allow it to be used in WoE would sound balanced

H.Walk - Awesome skill but the after cast delay is too HUGE. If the skill is left as it is it will be like a "special occasion" skill that you would use on ur birthday and die straight after using it. Its good against MVP but in PvP and WoE I wouldn't risk using it WILL YOU?? After-cast delay must be reduced or changed

3. VS other classes

As you can see most GX without God Items and Memory of Thanatos Cards are going CRIT. In order to kill with CRIT your aspd has to be at its best and dmg should be second to none as you can't equip shields with Katar. But even before all this you would need to get to the enemy. In this case using the concept of Dark Illusion to fast-approach BUT as soon as you reach your enemy you are just standing after that 1 shameful hit. So you decide to use your specialty cloak exceed and run fast to ur opponent and you see /gg ........ get CCed or Phychic waved, DB, Manhole, Deep Sleep whatever is available you name it u get owned from it.
Say you were lucky and safely got to the opponent and was able to land the first hit but after opposing classes will out damage you and yourself with EDP will to dissapointing dmg due to other classes DEF and dmg% reduction.

Like many other article had mentioned the previous Killer Class has now fallen to become a support unit. I am just writing this HOPING that someone useful will read and take couple of points into concideration for the next skill balance patch.

Thank you for reading. Please let me know if i have wrong understading of the class or anything that may have grapped your attention

P.S. Why does out job change reward item = Silent exeuctioner doesnt have any slot???? its is already crap enough as covering both mid & lower and it doesnt even get a slot !!!!?????????????

Many Thanks

[DrAzzy]

Here is the thing playing with GX in PvP / WoE

Like every GX player have had experienced the class its self is relatively disadvantaged

1. With Katar class weaps you are not able to equip shield

That is missing out on ALOT of DEF and 30%race reduction.
If we cant use shields together with are main weap atleast let us have an amazing fire power
but its is very similar with other classes with all the skills we put into katar and hand mastery
(for example a RK can out dmg and aspd us with berzerk pots + two-hand quicken and have more HP than us!!) - allow GX to use berserk pots !!!
Then you're doing it wrong. GX w/katars is the only class that can do half-decent damage with normal attacks in woe - again, if your normal attacks aren't vaporizing people, you're doing something wrong, I've gone from 50k hp to dead in ~2s from GX w/193 aspd from KVM katar proc; them being 2-handed is necessary for game balance.

2. Skills - Cloaking Exceed / Dark Illusion / H.Walk

Cloadking Exceed - One of the main advantage (or even a purpose) of being an Assassin Cross and GX is to have the ability or specialty if u like of cloaking. This now is pretty much just walking faster in black color.
With all the Maya Purple on the server the Cloaking ability (a HUGE element being an assassin class) has gone tits up. You are no longer able to put people into fear cause they all see u and "/heh".
Being able to Cloak Exceed (as the name stated "EXCEED") and not being sighted by MP card (nevermind being sighted with skill sight and ruwach) will put us GX back in the game with some sort of advantage (at least getting the first hit lolz)

Debatable - Cloaking needs a counter, so people can see it somehow... problem is that there are TOO MANY MAYA PURPLE CARDS because the GMs let out too many MCAs and didn't do a good enough job of clearing out the OCAs from the OCA npc fiasco.

Dark Illusion - even if it is allowed in WoE it would be extremely useless. As soon as u blink to the enemy and deal 1 X stupid damage u've left with some time gap where they can smash you with all the skills they have. Even with CI proc with edp formula changes and poor damage of CI your pretty much done.
If they can alter the skill and allow just a FULL NO LAG/GAP Blink (perhaps with ctl click attack) and allow it to be used in WoE would sound balanced

Debatable whether it should be allowed in woe, seeing as backslide is now allowed and wasn't gamebreaking

H.Walk - Awesome skill but the after cast delay is too HUGE. If the skill is left as it is it will be like a "special occasion" skill that you would use on ur birthday and die straight after using it. Its good against MVP but in PvP and WoE I wouldn't risk using it WILL YOU?? After-cast delay must be reduced or changed

3. VS other classes

As you can see most GX without God Items and Memory of Thanatos Cards are going CRIT. In order to kill with CRIT your aspd has to be at its best and dmg should be second to none as you can't equip shields with Katar. But even before all this you would need to get to the enemy. In this case using the concept of Dark Illusion to fast-approach BUT as soon as you reach your enemy you are just standing after that 1 shameful hit. So you decide to use your specialty cloak exceed and run fast to ur opponent and you see /gg ........ get CCed or Phychic waved, DB, Manhole, Deep Sleep whatever is available you name it u get owned from it.
Say you were lucky and safely got to the opponent and was able to land the first hit but after opposing classes will out damage you and yourself with EDP will to dissapointing dmg due to other classes DEF and dmg% reduction.

Yeah, everyone has trouble making it through the hail of AoE attacks. You need to sneak around to get to someone. Even most RKs will get shredded if they charge headlong into a heavy fire. As for your damage, it sounds like you don't have the KVM katar. Get it. It's really painful.

P.S. Why does out job change reward item = Silent exeuctioner doesnt have any slot???? its is already crap enough as covering both mid & lower and it doesnt even get a slot !!!!?????????????

Because until recently, the policy was that no slotted mid headgears were to be added to the game ever again. Obviously, they've changed that policy. This would be kinda nice - but that would make the GX award considerably better than the award any other class gets...

Edited by DrAzzy, 13 September 2011 - 08:05 PM.

[YmirOdin]

I do use a +12 KVM Jamadhar and it is so painful to see the dmg is just not up to scratch with GMG and all other stuff

The Cloaking Exceed should be changed so that it can only be detectable by AOE skills (hitting 3 or more time) and Sight & ruwach REALLY otherwise one major element of a GX is put to complete waste