Safe upgrader Rigged?
#1
Posted 24 September 2011 - 06:52 PM
+6 - +7 is 40% with normal elunium on armor
i just failed 5 times trying to get my skull cap +6 - +7
how is that? extremely unlucky? or the chances wid safe are bull-_-?
#2
Posted 24 September 2011 - 07:15 PM
#3
Posted 24 September 2011 - 07:28 PM
#4
Posted 24 September 2011 - 07:28 PM
40% chance, if you bet twice and lose twice, then you are SURE to win the 3rd time, right? If you lose again, then your chances of winning the FOURTH time are even better! Keep pouring money in!
When in fact, the 40% from previous wins/loses has absolutely no effect on this time.
Speaking of time, the "random chance" function that the Ragnarok server has, uses time as the random number generator seed. So, the time that you upgrade the item has an effect on your success =)
#5
Posted 24 September 2011 - 07:32 PM
I didn't have much of a problem getting a few gears to 7.
#6
Posted 24 September 2011 - 07:35 PM
Edited by Ekichan, 24 September 2011 - 07:37 PM.
#7
Posted 24 September 2011 - 07:41 PM
#8
Posted 24 September 2011 - 07:48 PM
#9
Posted 24 September 2011 - 07:54 PM
#10
Posted 24 September 2011 - 08:42 PM
also, some dude told me if u enrich+cert and fail,it breaks
crap or fact?
#11
Posted 24 September 2011 - 10:18 PM
fact, however, while your armor breaks, your cert remains safe (regardless of outcome)got it +7 on 6th try
also, some dude told me if u enrich+cert and fail,it breaks
crap or fact?
on second thought, even w/o cert you can still do it
Edited by ExDarkrb, 24 September 2011 - 10:19 PM.
#12
Posted 25 September 2011 - 05:08 AM
#13
Posted 25 September 2011 - 05:43 AM
The rates aren't rigged. It's actually about right if you take a large sample size.
#14
Posted 25 September 2011 - 08:07 AM
Never use the certificate if you don't have normal ores or have enriched in your inventory.
#15
Posted 25 September 2011 - 08:33 AM
You're just on the unlucky side really, and that's how life is. Now if you'd put a significant number in.... then yeah.
For reference, I'm the kind of person who would use enriched at +4-+5 and fail... twice in a row. Even though it's supposedly 90% chance.
#16
Posted 25 September 2011 - 12:21 PM
#17
Posted 25 September 2011 - 02:33 PM
I don't care if enriched does give a 90%(?) chance of succeeding to +5, if you're upgrading something worth 100M+ you should be busting out those certificates.
#18
Posted 25 September 2011 - 06:30 PM
Never use certs going from +4 to +5 on Armor/Lv4 Weapons. Even if there's a chance to break, it's better than failing on upgrade certs trying to get to +5.
I wouldn't do that on something pricy like Rideword hat. lol
#19
Posted 25 September 2011 - 07:14 PM
#20
Posted 25 September 2011 - 09:23 PM
#21
Posted 25 September 2011 - 11:11 PM
take my word:
Never use the certificate if you don't have normal ores or have enriched in your inventory.
You can't use a cert if you only have enriched in your inventory, because enriched and certs use different NPC's.
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