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[RubberDucky]

Quick question,
Do AK Cards work with Acid Bomb?
Also, if they do, should I use a AK card on HF or 3x AK card on an Elemental Sword?

Thanks!

Edited by RubberDucky, 27 September 2011 - 02:13 AM.

[Astraeos]

yes they do and elemental sword
but seems like a waste imo to do all that for a genetic

[RubberDucky]

Yeah... It kinda does! 3 Cards for just Acid Bomb, expensive!

[Kadelia]

archer skeleton (kingbird) adds a similar amount of damage to acid bomb as abysmal knight card... just do archer skeleton.

[geniewinie]

archer skeleton (kingbird) adds a similar amount of damage to acid bomb as abysmal knight card... just do archer skeleton.

NOT. archer skeleton only gives an addition 10% of base damage whereas Ak gives 25%. it's best if he puts it in a 3-4 slot weapon with high Atk damage or have a high int buff. plus if endow the weapon of the appropriate element & gearded with int+ gears may reach acid bomb damage of 130k-150k on mvps. based in my calculations before ( i lost the paper) reaching 120(base int) + 100+ additional from gears and foods can really boost the damage really high. add lex aeterna for 2x damage. enchant blade also does give a bit more. & sura's buffs too! they all stacks.

Note:
I really don't know if endow really works in changing the element of the acid bomb, however it somehow adds a bit of damage.

Edited by geniewinie, 30 September 2011 - 03:01 PM.

[RubberDucky]

Hmm but weapon ATK plays a very very large role in Acid Bomb damage. Like Hurricane Fury can do just about 100k on it's own. So I wonder would it be best to do AK HF (335 ATK), 2x AK Carga (175 ATK), or 3x AK Ele sword (105 ATK +4 INT)? :/

Edit: Actually 3x AK Red Naght Blade might work too? (160 ATK)

Edited by RubberDucky, 02 October 2011 - 05:16 AM.

[Astraeos]

it takes in both atk and matk... elemental sword has +95 matk and refines

[Kadelia]

NOT. archer skeleton only gives an addition 10% of base damage whereas Ak gives 25%. it's best if he puts it in a 3-4 slot weapon with high Atk damage or have a high int buff. plus if endow the weapon of the appropriate element & gearded with int+ gears may reach acid bomb damage of 130k-150k on mvps. based in my calculations before ( i lost the paper) reaching 120(base int) + 100+ additional from gears and foods can really boost the damage really high. add lex aeterna for 2x damage. enchant blade also does give a bit more. & sura's buffs too! they all stacks.

Note:
I really don't know if endow really works in changing the element of the acid bomb, however it somehow adds a bit of damage.

Awfully long post for someone who is wrong

Abysmal Knight only amplifies weapon ATK. Archer Skeleton amplifies the final damage. As a good portion of the final damage comes from INT and STR, archer skeleton affects 3x more of your stats than AK. In the end they are very similar damage. Between a +12 Double Liberation Carga and a Double Kingbird Carga I couldn't even tell which weapon was better against Atroce. Your calculations are cute, but I do over 200k acid bomb to monsters like Satan Morroc with a double kingbird carga and no god items, and only self-buffs from scrolls.

[RubberDucky]

So have we come to the conclusion that 2x Kingbird Carga would work best (and cheapest) for Acid Bomb? Astraeos mentioned that Acid Bomb factors in MATK as well? If that is true then shouldn't 3x Kingbird Elemental Sword be better?

PS. Sorry for all these annoying questions! I might edit the iWiki page after and add in information from here, it's very helpful!

[Heart]

Awfully long post for someone who is wrong

Abysmal Knight only amplifies weapon ATK. Archer Skeleton amplifies the final damage. As a good portion of the final damage comes from INT and STR, archer skeleton affects 3x more of your stats than AK. In the end they are very similar damage. Between a +12 Double Liberation Carga and a Double Kingbird Carga I couldn't even tell which weapon was better against Atroce. Your calculations are cute, but I do over 200k acid bomb to monsters like Satan Morroc with a double kingbird carga and no god items, and only self-buffs from scrolls.

+1

[Kadelia]

So have we come to the conclusion that 2x Kingbird Carga would work best (and cheapest) for Acid Bomb? Astraeos mentioned that Acid Bomb factors in MATK as well? If that is true then shouldn't 3x Kingbird Elemental Sword be better?

PS. Sorry for all these annoying questions! I might edit the iWiki page after and add in information from here, it's very helpful!

Triple Kingbird Elemental Sword is thought to be the best weapon.

Caution about the MATK though, it doesn't seem like +% MATK gears work on acid bomb from my tests, or factor in weirdly/low amount. So aside from the elemental sword, don't bother with other +MATK gears, but do consider +INT gears if available as those do notably impact acid bomb's damage as well as cart cannon's.

If you have a high ATK weapon like a carga, the new +10% vs boss headgear (alicel) should do wonders.

Edited by Jaye, 04 October 2011 - 06:16 AM.

[RubberDucky]

But the MATK portion of Elemental Sword is affected by Archer Skel cards right? O_o

[Astraeos]

yes and no...

it doesnt directly affect matk portion of the equation but the total dmg of acid bomb...
so instead of being (atk * mod) + (matk * mod) + everything else from acid bomb equation blablabla... its more like (atk + matk + acid bomb stuffs) * archer skel

if that makes any sense... and no the equation doesnt really look like that for acid bomb im just stating a point... i think lol

[RubberDucky]

Sounds good! It's settled then. 3x Archer Skel Elemental Sword it is!