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[Luckywhiterabbit]

But what, you can't use dual dagger if you're shuriken build can you?

[Clogon]

Yes you can just not Huuma Shuriken which sucks so bad...

Edit:
You'd only ever use Huuma against Chasers in case they use Counter instinct.

Edited by Clogon, 07 November 2011 - 11:04 PM.

[Luckywhiterabbit]

Ok, I wasn't aware that you could use throw shuriken skills with daggers. I haven't done any research on ninjas yet.

Still, even if this class is OP I don't really mind it. Still doesn't seem as powerful as a Sura. I'm sure their low HP will keep them from being too scary even though they have cicada shed and all those other nice defensive tools.

Edited by Luckywhiterabbit, 08 November 2011 - 01:31 AM.

[Clogon]

Right the fact that Sura's can't even touch these classes doesn't make them as powerful as Sura...

Edited by Clogon, 08 November 2011 - 01:52 AM.

[asayuu]

"A busy woe". Without any linked alchemist Archbishop or Sura to heal you at your side? Or ales ygg seeds as a Sura does?

Any problem, wear two x4 hunterfly main gauches and a rideword hat, and a loyal Succubus pet. Almost 30% chance to heal your hp by using any attack. Maybe with hunterflies you can make KS even as spammable as GoH. /gg

[and you can have a sexy succubus walking with you <3]

Just not sure about the damage... KS may be weak with main gauches... But maybe a triple hunterfly Gladius on main hand may help a little.

Depends mostly of their HP mod. Is it close to which class one? /hmm~

Point is. Are you really planning to solo WOE?

Edited by asayuu, 08 November 2011 - 07:02 AM.

[PedroProplayer]

You cannot use Fuuma Shuriken Skills with daggers, the Recovery skill is fast enough for you to spam Killing Stroke with it, and KS isn't affected by atk. Any 2x daggers with 4 slots will be best for KS. 2x Knife[4] with 4 hydras and 4 Skelly Workers would be just fine.

[Luckywhiterabbit]

Right the fact that Sura's can't even touch these classes doesn't make them as powerful as Sura...

just because they have a good matchup vs sura doesn't mean they're stronger or more versatile. What roles do they fill which a sura cannot? And how do they succeed the sura's usefulness in those roles? Unless they have Snap or something just as useful, I don't see them eclipsing the sura any time soon.

As mainly a PVM player I'm very interested in this class's mobbing potential. they have low HP but it seems like they'll kill quickly and have strong AOE.

[asayuu]

A Royal Guard also has a good matchup against Sura, because of reflect skills and Defending Aura. Does this make RGs stronger than Suras?

It is good every class having their own counters, it makes more classes desired to be used.

[Chigikogou]

just because they have a good matchup vs sura doesn't mean they're stronger or more versatile. What roles do they fill which a sura cannot? And how do they succeed the sura's usefulness in those roles? Unless they have Snap or something just as useful, I don't see them eclipsing the sura any time soon.

As mainly a PVM player I'm very interested in this class's mobbing potential. they have low HP but it seems like they'll kill quickly and have strong AOE.

Bakuretsu Kunai is broken, in any angle you can view it. So = no strong AOE. Depends though if Ninpou is included in AOE .. it might happen.

[Luckywhiterabbit]

wait...bakuretsu Kunai seems pretty powerful. Why do you consider it to be not a strong AOE?

[Chigikogou]

I only posted a single sentence, you didn't read "Broken"?
Seeing those screenies did you think it is fair that at 102 you'd be dealing 32k?
Something might be wrong with it. Otherwise if it really is that strong it would be unfair for... lets just say bow rangers.

[altandf4]

I don't see why these class need hunterflies . If 10 seconds full heal works on 50% weight. Might as well stock lots of stuff 80% weight, 7 Archer Skeleton cards... overkill damage, then just add a RWH, probably over healed you with Bakunai. 32k damage, how much RWH heal is that?
You can endlessly mob with Cacada being toss half way a map throw 1-2 BaKunai against 30 mobs. I know this works on Roweens, but in bio, this should work too if you keep and count your Cicada carefully.

[Chigikogou]

What the heck are you saying?

[HayrohsLegacy]

Updated first page with Skill Simulator

Edited by HayrohsLegacy, 16 November 2011 - 11:32 PM.

[Luckywhiterabbit]

I only posted a single sentence, you didn't read "Broken"?
Seeing those screenies did you think it is fair that at 102 you'd be dealing 32k?
Something might be wrong with it. Otherwise if it really is that strong it would be unfair for... lets just say bow rangers.

you said the skill was broken, then =no strong aoe.

It's broken, so obviously it's a strong AoE isn't it? Why do you say this class has no strong AoE?

[CeruleanGamer]

I hope they are the answer "against Suras"... /gg

I've seen level 99 Ninjas make a joke out of level 150 RKs/Suras/GXes already. These new class tiers for Ninja is an instant solution against these overpowered melee classes.

[Clogon]

Too bad it doesn't help the mages or archers in anyway. Just another class that can 1 shot us faster than GoH Sura's.

[Luckywhiterabbit]

whoa whoa there. GX's have never been overpowered.

[Clogon]

Don't post PServer stuff. None of that is indecative of the real class.

[HayrohsLegacy]

No idea where this came from thought this was official, well disregard it gona delete posted vid

[Clogon]

It was already posted a few pages back. =P

[Scuba]

Ah misread your post. And you are wrong. Unless people are stupid, all ninjas will be dual dagger.

[Clogon]

Should I call people smart for choosing not to double their damage?

[Scuba]

[iiNote]

Does archer skeleton card add Throw Kunai DMG o_O?