89 replies to this topic

[Darel]

So, leveling up/mid-high level pvp wise, which one should I choose to max?

Use Hypno, just don't used on PF/Ninjas neither 1vs1 match, it's girlish.

The April's is for longer battles and with charactes like WM and Myrm.

[DirtyClaw]

sry ur build iz a joke..... lv 1 cutdown...rly? lvl 1 ambush.......? lvl 5 swift? wtf..... n y lvl 5 fly....and ps...lvl 5.....ps worthless... 0 or lv 1.....n lol....lvl 75 build.....?

http://image-storage...511111010005000

[Kazra]

Skill simulator here.
Wanna explain how I'm gonna get max some skills like RP to 10/10 and such?

http://forums.warppo...tyle_emoticons/default/icon_banghead.gif

[iKnowMyABCs]

sry ur build iz a joke..... lv 1 cutdown...rly? lvl 1 ambush.......? lvl 5 swift? wtf..... n y lvl 5 fly....and ps...lvl 5.....ps worthless... 0 or lv 1.....n lol....lvl 75 build.....?

http://image-storage...511111010005000

Because of the monster card system you need more sp. Put in those unneccessary points into dagger, kata block, RP and Dexterity. You need 260 more sp to 10/10 them and me adding 5 fly, 5 PS had 240 SP.

[DirtyClaw]

... u didnt even add dex buff in ur build..... n dats nt essential... if u stak hlt, its nice 2 hav but u dun rly hav 2... since it take lyk... 1k mp at lvl 10? -.- dagger lv 10 is also optional.. ders definitly enuf pts 2 make a build w/ lv 10 rp lv 10 block and all other usful skillz, n i linked it 2 u. honestly april fool can b lv 3, since lv 3 is wen cooldown lower den duration. PS is either 0 or 1... n if its 0, den u can drop shadow leap 0 or 1... most ppl who use shadow leap gt demselves killed wid it... plz think abt it more....

[iKnowMyABCs]

... u didnt even add dex buff in ur build..... n dats nt essential... if u stak hlt, its nice 2 hav but u dun rly hav 2... since it take lyk... 1k mp at lvl 10? -.- dagger lv 10 is also optional.. ders definitly enuf pts 2 make a build w/ lv 10 rp lv 10 block and all other usful skillz, n i linked it 2 u. honestly april fool can b lv 3, since lv 3 is wen cooldown lower den duration. PS is either 0 or 1... n if its 0, den u can drop shadow leap 0 or 1... most ppl who use shadow leap gt demselves killed wid it... plz think abt it more....

Can't read so.

Edited by iKnowMyABCs, 06 September 2010 - 09:21 PM.

[JoeDizzle]

Can't read so.

You are learning well young padawan.

[iKnowMyABCs]

... u didnt even add dex buff in ur build..... n dats nt essential... if u stak hlt, its nice 2 hav but u dun rly hav 2... since it take lyk... 1k mp at lvl 10? -.- dagger lv 10 is also optional.. ders definitly enuf pts 2 make a build w/ lv 10 rp lv 10 block and all other usful skillz, n i linked it 2 u. honestly april fool can b lv 3, since lv 3 is wen cooldown lower den duration. PS is either 0 or 1... n if its 0, den u can drop shadow leap 0 or 1... most ppl who use shadow leap gt demselves killed wid it... plz think abt it more....

Being curious, I've read your post. Dex buff gives you agility and post paris patch, it becomes percentage based so it's actually pretty good. Dagger is pretty much the best dmg skill a ninja could get so why not make it 10/10 for maximum dmg? For block, no doubt that you should make it 10/10 for obvious reasons. As for AF, it would be best maxed in group pvp. Lastly, PS is a pretty good skill for both finishing off or running away so I could get 1 point into it.

You are learning well young padawan.

I lost D:

[JoeDizzle]

I lost.

Not sure about this one but I think you need certain monster cards to unlock levels higher than 5 on certain skills. So I'm pretty sure that thieves have some skills able to go up to 10 also.

[iKnowMyABCs]

Not sure about this one but I think you need certain monster cards to unlock levels higher than 5 on certain skills. So I'm pretty sure that thieves have some skills able to go up to 10 also.

Here is the link.

That's what I've been saying to him. You need more sp for maxing the crucial skills D:

[DirtyClaw]

yes but if u stak hlt n get dat... 1k mp to get 18 agi....? dagger lv 10 cost even mor mp.... wat r u gunna arti all ur gear w/ int now?? wit lv 10 dex buff AND lv 10 dagger... o n also ninja skillz even more mp..... wat u gunna do...? typical ninja lv 65 around 4.5k-5k mp... AF... ariel frenzy....? or i guezz u mean april fools... dats on preference.. lv 3 is fine cus u can juz go bak and april them again. if u wan lv 5, den u can get lv 5. PS lv 1... u kno is 350% + 1000 n 180 mp.. still very weak. 2 finish u can juz swift or fly since aoe iz biggr after patch... but i sed u can gt lv 1 if u wan..

[iKnowMyABCs]

yes but if u stak hlt n get dat... 1k mp to get 18 agi....? dagger lv 10 cost even mor mp.... wat r u gunna arti all ur gear w/ int now?? wit lv 10 dex buff AND lv 10 dagger... o n also ninja skillz even more mp..... wat u gunna do...? typical ninja lv 65 around 4.5k-5k mp... AF... ariel frenzy....? or i guezz u mean april fools... dats on preference.. lv 3 is fine cus u can juz go bak and april them again. if u wan lv 5, den u can get lv 5. PS lv 1... u kno is 350% + 1000 n 180 mp.. still very weak. 2 finish u can juz swift or fly since aoe iz biggr after patch... but i sed u can gt lv 1 if u wan..

I'm pretty sure you can stack upto 300 agility with a ninja not to mention it would be used in group pvp.

Dexterity
Increases AGI of you and your team members in range.
0/5 or 10/10 Only get this skill if you're an evade build and have enough mp and sp. I recommend only getting this if you have enough skill forges, as there are more useful skills than this. If you do get this skill, make sure that you do get it to level 10, as it provides a +20% boost to your base agi, which is a lot of evade if you're building your character properly. At max, this skill requires over 900 MP to cast, so I highly recommend at least 150+ int if you're going to use this skill, or you will find yourself out of MP.

(Quoted from Yurai)

As for skills costing more mana, it does more dmg to compensate it. It wouldn't JUST use more mana, it makes up with killing the opponent faster.

For PS, not only is it good for catching running enemy, you can run away from potencial lock.

Edited by iKnowMyABCs, 06 September 2010 - 09:59 PM.

[DirtyClaw]

no dex buff only apply on base agi, which is 180 if u didnt add pts in agi. actually i wuznt thinking, it actually +36 agi for hlt staker. wat compensate 4 the 1k mp taken from the buff?.. n also this is essential skill, dagger is preference... i and many others prefer lv 5 over lv 10. every super stacker char will get lv 10 bcoz dey hav the mp to use it, but 4 me n others lv 5 is alrdy gud enuff. and PS... u can juz dash lolz.. PS has a short animation b4 u move... so u can get caught ez from der... n also if u try use PS 2 dodge a RP, u still get hit bcoz of ping. n like i sed 2 times... PS at lv 0 or lv 1.... i kno wat the uses r 4... im lv 65 -.-...

[iKnowMyABCs]

no dex buff only apply on base agi, which is 180 if u didnt add pts in agi. actually i wuznt thinking, it actually +36 agi for hlt staker. wat compensate 4 the 1k mp taken from the buff?.. n also this is essential skill, dagger is preference... i and many others prefer lv 5 over lv 10. every super stacker char will get lv 10 bcoz dey hav the mp to use it, but 4 me n others lv 5 is alrdy gud enuff. and PS... u can juz dash lolz.. PS has a short animation b4 u move... so u can get caught ez from der... n also if u try use PS 2 dodge a RP, u still get hit bcoz of ping. n like i sed 2 times... PS at lv 0 or lv 1.... i kno wat the uses r 4... im lv 65 -.-...

I'm getting tired of trying to read your post. Last reply.

Why wouldn't you add agi as a bonus stat when you're a ninja?

And for PS, I just stated that PS can be for catching running enemy and make you be able to start your combo since you will be right beside them or run away from harlie locks and such.

Edited by iKnowMyABCs, 06 September 2010 - 10:14 PM.

[DirtyClaw]

dats onli if u stak eva... if ur eva low alrdy y wud u add agi?... wont help as much as da hlt wud. dats still bsides da point... cuz even u add agi, dex lv 10 cost 1k mp... n dagger lv 10 cost 120 mp.. n ninja skills cost even more mp den b4.... were u gunna get da mp 4 all dat...? means u can onli play in 2 v 2 or 3 v 3...... dink abt it..... -.- wen u stak eva u alrdy nid eva agi special... den means u nid arti 2 get enuf mp, wen u can juz stak hlt n agi/int as special n use bone muff insted of kimart.

ok good 4 u... y u keep tellin me abt PS den... hav u ever use PS...? u cant run from lock with it... its nt as fast as priest' litning chaarge. n u cant rly start a combo w/ it unless da guy fail da roll. it only useful 2 place more distanse, or continue a combo, or as replase ment 4 swift/shadw lepa

[iKnowMyABCs]

dats onli if u stak eva... if ur eva low alrdy y wud u add agi?... wont help as much as da hlt wud. dats still bsides da point... cuz even u add agi, dex lv 10 cost 1k mp... n dagger lv 10 cost 120 mp.. n ninja skills cost even more mp den b4.... were u gunna get da mp 4 all dat...? means u can onli play in 2 v 2 or 3 v 3...... dink abt it..... -.- wen u stak eva u alrdy nid eva agi special... den means u nid arti 2 get enuf mp, wen u can juz stak hlt n agi/int as special n use bone muff insted of kimart.

ok good 4 u... y u keep tellin me abt PS den... hav u ever use PS...? u cant run from lock with it... its nt as fast as priest' litning chaarge. n u cant rly start a combo w/ it unless da guy fail da roll. it only useful 2 place more distanse, or continue a combo, or as replase ment 4 swift/shadw lepa

TM:DR (too messy: didn't read)

[xandiel]

TM:DR (too messy: didn't read)

then why bother quoting?

[iKnowMyABCs]

then why bother quoting?

Just to let him know. I can't take him seriously.

[Kazra]

Even when his info is valid? (Or at least from what I've read. I'm sure Yurai would agree.)

[iKnowMyABCs]

Even when his info is valid? (Or at least from what I've read. I'm sure Yurai would agree.)

If you want to translate it for me I'll glad to take him seriously. But before than, I don't want to waste my time trying to decipher his enigmatic scripture.

[Kazra]

Good luck then.

[Yurai]

I did say you should have 150+ int for the dex buff. Base int at level 60 is 82, and I doubt you have +68 int.

[iKnowMyABCs]

That's only if you stack evade... If your evade is low already why would you add agi?... Won't help as much as the health would. that's still besides the point... because even if you add agi, Dexterity level 10 cost 1k mp... and dagger level 10 cost 120 mp.. and ninja skills cost even more mp then b4.... Were you gonna get the mp 4 all that...? Means you can only play in 2 v 2 or 3 v 3...... Think about it..... -.- when you stack evade you already need evade agi special... den means you need arti 2 get enough mp, wen u can just stack health n agi/int as special n use bone muff instead of kimart.

Okay good for you... Why you keep telling me about PS then... Have you ever use PS...? You cant run from lock with it... It's not as fast as priest's lightning charge. And you can't really start a combo w/ it unless the guy fail the roll. It only useful two place more distance, or continue a combo, or as replacement 4 swift/shadow leap.

Okay that took forever to change it.

What if I want to stack evade? IMO, it's better than stacking health on a ninja as we can't use health stack like WM.

Also you keep saying how much the MP it costs to use a skill without thinking the dmg boost. More dmg = less amount of hits required for you to kill him. In the end it would be similar.

As for PS, I said escaping from a potencial lock as one good use for the skill, not escaping from a lock. For example, just dashing in the range of a harlie can still get you hit whereas PS could both hit and teleport you.

I did say you should have 150+ int for the dex buff. Base int at level 60 is 82, and I doubt you have +68 int.

We were talking about level 75.

Edited by iKnowMyABCs, 07 September 2010 - 04:50 AM.

[Yurai]

We were talking about level 75.

Base int stops increasing after level 60.

[iKnowMyABCs]

Base int stops increasing after level 60.

I was pointing out the fact that we were talking about level 75.

Also I was implying the usage of Dexterity to be used in group pvp as 20% agi is pretty good.