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#1 sayoko

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 02:41 PM

I want to know the exact and current effect PLEASE, and how its going to be after balance, thats all
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 03:06 PM

i'd say balance wont affect it since thats only skills, but i believe it gets thoroughly replaced (in pvp/woe) but the new fist. Glorious could still be useful for some MVP's i guess.
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 03:09 PM

i'd say balance wont affect it since thats only skills, but i believe it gets thoroughly replaced (in pvp/woe) but the new fist. Glorious could still be useful for some MVP's i guess.

i did this question, becouse i can remenber that heim told that when balance patch comes, the internal changes to mandragora howling and kvm fist will be removed :mellow: :thumb: :bow:
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 04:03 PM

They are really inconsistent about everything.
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 04:34 PM

What's the chance of instant Gfist from the Glorious Fist? It used to be 100% but I think they nerfed it.
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 07:26 PM

if they bring back instant fist, thats a nerf.
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 07:58 PM

if they bring back instant fist, thats a nerf.


are sura's faster than instant right now? Oo
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 08:05 PM

are sura's faster than instant right now? Oo


You're bad or trolling Q_Q
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 08:59 PM

if they bring back the instant effect you won't be able to swap to a kvm mace mid cast
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 09:33 PM

And if you can't swap many people will live the fist due to low Atk of the KvM Fist.
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Posted 21 November 2011 - 12:55 AM

for people that dont know the fist gives permanent secrament while equipped

i wouldnt mind instant fist being back
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Posted 21 November 2011 - 05:21 AM

for people that dont know the fist gives permanent secrament while equipped

i wouldnt mind instant fist being back


gives perma secrament AND auto zen after casting fury!


but yeh if they make it instant, thats a huge nerf
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Posted 21 November 2011 - 06:05 AM

they should just make it work like fly wing.. can't swich gears when casting the end
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Posted 21 November 2011 - 09:57 AM

they should just make it work like fly wing.. can't swich gears when casting the end


That wouldn't even make sense.
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Posted 21 November 2011 - 02:25 PM

REALLY? a gm cant answer this? they need HQ approval? :angel:

its just 1 question then..... whats the current effect of kvm fist?
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Posted 21 November 2011 - 07:57 PM

REALLY? a gm cant answer this? they need HQ approval? :angel:

its just 1 question then..... whats the current effect of kvm fist?


Can you not read?

for people that dont know the fist gives permanent secrament while equipped


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Posted 21 November 2011 - 08:33 PM

Jesus Christ, is irowiki's DB that hard to use?

30 Atk, Lvl 4 Weapon

Physical attacks bypass the defense of [Demi-Human] race targets by 20%.

  • +6 upgrade bonus:
    • [Slaughter] Lv 1: Increases physical damage bonus by (Upgrade - 4) ^ 2, til an upgrade of +14.
    • Increases defense bypassing by 5%.
  • +9 upgrade bonus:
    • Removes the cast time for [Guillotine Fist].
    • Automaticly casts [Zen] Lv 1 when [Fury] is used.
Last I checked they changed the +9 effect on gfist from instant cast to 1 second. Could be wrong, this needs confirmation.

I've heard of no changes coming with the balance patch.

Personally I think the KVM Morning Star is better for Gfist damage. It's base demihuman bonus is 20% lower than the fist, but you get the 100% damage vs medium whereas the fist is only 75%.

Edited by Akami, 21 November 2011 - 08:37 PM.

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 01:46 AM

+9 Perma sacrament while equipped and when casting fury autocast zen.
(still retains its slaughter effect)
please close thread.
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 10:45 AM

no one of you are a gm, its not that i dont trust you guys but..... thanks to answer since gms cant :angel:
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 11:14 AM

no one of you are a gm, its not that i dont trust you guys but..... thanks to answer since gms cant :angel:

Then why didn't you just PM Heim about it instead of making a whole thread over it?
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