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#176 tainguyen

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 06:48 PM

To whomever said summoners summons die super fast in naked PvP. I guess taking 4-8k damage per sniping while having 398k hp is dying super fast, amirite?

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Oh lets not forget i can unsummon him or any other summon for basically a free full MP and half HP heal. Summoners sure are underpowered in group PvP. I didn't even have to mention the burn on meteor, earthquakes debuffs or mana burn! :blink:

Photoshoped!!! Mana burn is banned btw. Earthquaks, meteor (what lvl is burn?) Imo isn't bad. N2 burn is pretty bad if you want to point fingers. If your talking about debuffs... Pf has a lot of good ones too no? Freeze, net, silence, block.
Also, wow, I used a twin against lvl 73 shaman, and I was lvl 44 at that time, and golgon went down fairly fast. Does that shaman have maxed nation or something?
Why not as a solution, ban golgon? What I see as the problem is its hp. (Problem is skills build)
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 06:51 PM

Photoshoped!!!


I was sniping and that's the real dmg...

Pf has a lot of good ones too no? Freeze, net, silence, block.


PFs do not have block, they have evade.

Edited by xBayoo, 07 December 2011 - 06:53 PM.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 06:52 PM

Photoshoped!!! Mana burn is banned btw. Earthquaks, meteor (what lvl is burn?) Imo isn't bad. N2 burn is pretty bad if you want to point fingers. If your talking about debuffs... Pf has a lot of good ones too no? Freeze, net, silence, block.
Also, wow, I used a twin against lvl 73 shaman, and I was lvl 44 at that time, and golgon went down fairly fast. Does that shaman have maxed nation or something?
Why not as a solution, ban golgon? What I see as the problem is its hp. (Problem is skills build)


Probably because back then, fighters still had attacks that ignored defense.
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#179 StormHaven

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 06:54 PM

Photoshoped!!! Mana burn is banned btw. Earthquaks, meteor (what lvl is burn?) Imo isn't bad. N2 burn is pretty bad if you want to point fingers. If your talking about debuffs... Pf has a lot of good ones too no? Freeze, net, silence, block.
Also, wow, I used a twin against lvl 73 shaman, and I was lvl 44 at that time, and golgon went down fairly fast. Does that shaman have maxed nation or something?
Why not as a solution, ban golgon? What I see as the problem is its hp. (Problem is skills build)


what.... do you know how hard it is to land net and traps...? and block...since when did we have block?...
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#180 GrapefruitGod

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 06:57 PM

silence trap is banned too...
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#181 tainguyen

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 07:37 PM

i meant block as in block jump or was it dash? both? i dont remember, i dodge all of them most of the time. as for photoshopped... that was a joke haha.
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#182 tainguyen

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 07:37 PM

Also, i just tried to test the bug in pvp, and it does not work anymore. I believe that they fixed it then. Twins should be fine in pvp now
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 07:38 PM

Also, i just tried to test the bug in pvp, and it does not work anymore. I believe that they fixed it then. Twins should be fine in pvp now


no it still works.
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 07:41 PM

I can double confirm that it still works.
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#185 tainguyen

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 07:52 PM

I can double confirm that it still works.

go ahead, please by all means.
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 07:53 PM

go ahead, please by all means.

I just did. It still works.
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 08:08 PM

The Backfire Effect
The Misconception: When your beliefs are challenged with facts, you alter your opinions and incorporate the new information into your thinking.
The Truth: When your deepest convictions are challenged by contradictory evidence, your beliefs get stronger.
http://youarenotsosm...ackfire-effect/

Stop arguing with him please.
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#188 tainguyen

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 08:12 PM

zzz, right. Just show proof. Im already over with twin.
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 08:15 PM


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#190 tainguyen

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 08:22 PM


Try it in pvp please. Yes it still works, but it does not in pvp
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 08:23 PM

Try it in pvp please. Yes it still works, but it does not in pvp

Jesus christ, dude. Give me a bit to record.
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 08:26 PM

Kazu, he's trolling you.
He must be trolling you.
I refuse to believe someone can be this dumb.
This guy has not contributed a single shred of productivity to this discussion, just ignore the troll.

Edited by Miname, 07 December 2011 - 08:26 PM.

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#193 GrapefruitGod

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 08:30 PM

The problem is that too many people try to undermine or troll certain people or groups of people and all of the topics on the forum end up with this cancerous result.

It's really sad tbh
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#194 tainguyen

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 08:36 PM

Im 100% serious. The bug doesnt work in pvp
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 08:38 PM

Im 100% serious. The bug doesnt work in pvp


I just helped Kazu test it. It does, lol
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 08:40 PM


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#197 tainguyen

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 09:03 PM

woah, thats weird. I guess im unbugged. All my skills work including iron fist. Twin harmony also works for me in comparision to last time i invested sp on it. Ill reset skill so i can bug again.
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 09:04 PM

woah, thats weird. I guess im unbugged. All my skills work including iron fist. Twin harmony also works for me in comparision to last time i invested sp on it. Ill reset skill so i can bug again.


Or you didn't do it right...
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 09:09 PM

From my experience I can do the no cooldown gltich anywhere any channel on my level 80 Jumeaux, pvp or pve. For some strange reason I can't get it to work no more than half of the time on a newly created level 35 Twin Fighter on both game modes. I'm not sure if it depends on the class or gender or level or date of creation, graphical lag, so it may be one or more of those factors which could be the reason for the confusion. I personally don't feel the glitch can be effectively used without being obvious to the opponments and the referees (there is one, right?). But it is an exploit and if used sparingly, it can be difficult to spot to the untrained eye so if the officials feel it would be too much of a hassle to look out for foul play from the Twins or humans disrupting the game by claiming the Twin used the glitch, I'm for allowing this awesome class to participate in a future tournament when the exploit is fixed.

Edited by necoconeco, 07 December 2011 - 09:18 PM.

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#200 tainguyen

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 09:29 PM

No i did it right. I just reseted my skill and now it works.
If maxed with harmony with points, and maxed ghost fighter, it seems like it stops the glitch. maybe its just maxed harmony with points, im not sure, and am not willing to use another reset scroll.
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