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#26 CeruleanGamer

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 09:51 AM

I dunno, I'm being called the PvP bully in my server coz I wipe out people so fast in PvP even if they are level 150 and Royal Guards. My Warg Strike does 900-1.2k damage to an RG even on Defending Aura. An RG shouldn't be able to get close to you at all even with Endure since that will disappear in less than quarter of a second against a 193 aspd Ranger. You're either not using Arrow Repel to keep your distance or you're letting them get close to you.

Distance and detection are very important to Rangers.

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 10:00 AM

I dunno, I'm being called the PvP bully in my server coz I wipe out people so fast in PvP even if they are level 150 and Royal Guards. My Warg Strike does 900-1.2k damage to an RG even on Defending Aura. An RG shouldn't be able to get close to you at all even with Endure since that will disappear in less than quarter of a second against a 193 aspd Ranger. You're either not using Arrow Repel to keep your distance or you're letting them get close to you.

Distance and detection are very important to Rangers.


that`s damage that`s easily pottable lol...and they can still manage to get close and Banishing point and good bye
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Posted 12 January 2012 - 10:06 AM

that`s damage that`s easily pottable lol...and they can still manage to get close and Banishing point and good bye


RG's can hit a 500+ Flee Ranger in PvP? Other than Pinpoint attack, they aren't that threatening at all with their Vanishing Point.

Let them kill you. In the end, they are the ones crying for burning 500+ pots getting hitlocked by a Ranger while all we need is 5k to heal up at Eden Kitchen and some arrows and come back to burn more of their pots again.
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Posted 12 January 2012 - 11:13 AM

RG's can hit a 500+ Flee Ranger in PvP? Other than Pinpoint attack, they aren't that threatening at all with their Vanishing Point.

Let them kill you. In the end, they are the ones crying for burning 500+ pots getting hitlocked by a Ranger while all we need is 5k to heal up at Eden Kitchen and some arrows and come back to burn more of their pots again.


lol true
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Posted 12 January 2012 - 07:31 PM

I`m guessing the only issue is staying in Camo while spamming Warg skills...this would result in Warg skills never missing due to the 100% crit rate. Only thing I`m wondering is if camo cancels after we manually warg strike. Can someone test this and see if it does?
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Posted 12 January 2012 - 09:33 PM

I`m guessing the only issue is staying in Camo while spamming Warg skills...this would result in Warg skills never missing due to the 100% crit rate. Only thing I`m wondering is if camo cancels after we manually warg strike. Can someone test this and see if it does?


Yeah you lose it if you attack normally or manual use Warg Strike (I don't think it even affects its damage). Arrow Storm lets you keep Camouflage after using though.
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Posted 12 January 2012 - 11:41 PM

Yes I know that...dam that means I need to invest in dex for manual warg spamming to kill high level gx's...warg strike should be like falcon then and should never miss it's target.
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 08:19 PM

So you can continuously spam WS in camo but it`s quite useless since it doesn`t take into account the crit rate nor the extra attack...

Camo is probably one of the most useless skills I have ever seen...the only thing it`s good for is spamming AS and Aimed Bolt and it disappears as soon as your ctrl+click lol

I still want an explanation as to how I miss on Gx`s even with 500 hit...they have 450 flee and I`m still missing them constantly

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 09:52 PM

So you can continuously spam WS in camo but it`s quite useless since it doesn`t take into account the crit rate nor the extra attack...

Camo is probably one of the most useless skills I have ever seen...the only thing it`s good for is spamming AS and Aimed Bolt and it disappears as soon as your ctrl+click lol

I still want an explanation as to how I miss on Gx`s even with 500 hit...they have 450 flee and I`m still missing them constantly


No.

Camouflage is good because it prevents others from ctrl+clicking us, therefore giving us protection against RKs with Crush Strike or GXs. After 10 seconds on Camouflage, we gain 100 Crit and +300 Attack boost which makes Bow Attack skills we use really powerful!

Also Arrow Storm doesn't cancel Camouflage after usage which makes Camo+Arrow Storm a versatile combo in PvM (We are the best AoErs in the game atm since no class can ever do 80-90k AoEs with 1 skill more consistently than Rangers).

If you are missing GXs, it's prolly a level gap issue or you're trying to hit them while in Hallucination Walk which is the last thing you really wanna do. We have Warg Ride and Windwalker for a reason. Learn to buy time and run around till it expires after 60 seconds then finish them off.

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 08:03 AM

No.

Camouflage is good because it prevents others from ctrl+clicking us, therefore giving us protection against RKs with Crush Strike or GXs. After 10 seconds on Camouflage, we gain 100 Crit and +300 Attack boost which makes Bow Attack skills we use really powerful!

Also Arrow Storm doesn't cancel Camouflage after usage which makes Camo+Arrow Storm a versatile combo in PvM (We are the best AoErs in the game atm since no class can ever do 80-90k AoEs with 1 skill more consistently than Rangers).

If you are missing GXs, it's prolly a level gap issue or you're trying to hit them while in Hallucination Walk which is the last thing you really wanna do. We have Warg Ride and Windwalker for a reason. Learn to buy time and run around till it expires after 60 seconds then finish them off.


It` great for PvM yes...but you also need to take into account not everyone will be ctrl+clicking us in PvP and WoE. Any Gx knows that ctrl+click doesn`t work with camo so all they have to do is use 1 soul destroyer and were dead
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Posted 16 January 2012 - 01:37 PM

wow i like how ranger are now, and when i see you aspd and your hit i wanna do that to

have you posted some builds? im 135 and im very happy with my ranger but im still not doing the aspd and the hit you do

can you gimme some tips?

thanks!
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