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#26 Joaco

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 01:40 PM

He would kill so slow and OD2 was packed at the time so eventually the mobs would just overpower him. Was using the Dance AI so he wouldn't recover hp.
He would die if I alt tabbed or went afk for longer than 20 mins. Amistir is a great choice, but I would highly suggest getting him to 106-109 first before mutating him.

Then I was right about choosing Amistr. :hmm:
But what did you mean with the sentence in bold? Doens't the normal homunculus stop lvl when it reaches lvl 99? And why are you recommending me that?
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#27 DrAzzy

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 01:59 PM

No, you can level normal homuns past 99. The reason to do so would be to get it high enough to get the attack skill, before switching to homun S, because homun S has lousy aspd. The reason you wouldn't do that is because then you'll suffer from lower stats.
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 02:25 PM

Oh. So I have to lvl it up to 106-109 and then mutate it into homun S, but.. What about the homun S stats? I mean.. the stats I'd get from 99-106 (or 109) being homun S, will I get them before reaching lvl 150? And how did I get Stahl Horn max if I'll mutate normal homun at 106-109 when the skill is suppose to get at lvl 105? Or is it that when I mutate it at 106 it will get it instantly?
Thanks for the help :hmm:
Edit: Btw, what are the right Amistr stats? High str, vit, then agi, dex and luk? Are the stats random like vanil ones?
Edit2: What's the best tank? Dieter or Beyeri?

Edited by Joaco, 17 February 2012 - 02:28 PM.

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#29 Uyuni

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 09:36 PM

No upload images in WP forums?!

http://forums.irowik...524#post1216524
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Posted 18 February 2012 - 08:48 AM

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here are the Status from Amistr to Beyeri, homunculus created in Semptember? envolved in November, should i reset it?

nobody awnser me yet, should i reset it or he have normal stats?
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Posted 18 February 2012 - 10:40 AM

I say keep it if you plan on going amistr>bayeri again. That 387 def is pretty sexy(assuming its without bulwark) and the other stats got a decent jump. Im assuming you get a beast of a jump in attackspeed every level like the other homuncs, once 102 hits you can use his horn skill to kill things. And once you get the second skill I assume he is going to be amazing. +60% hp, holy horn attack and +26% attack speed should help tons.
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Posted 19 February 2012 - 09:54 AM

Wasn't sure where else to post this but I would like to know before maintenance...

Last time I evolved Van to its second form, it was around level 68 so I have no idea what unevolved Van's stats should be at 93.

Mine seem terrible:
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Does the first evolution really make that much of a difference? @_@ Would it be necessary to remake it... again? >.>
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Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:17 AM

You should be fine. You have pretty decent aspd. Mine is level 90 atm and has 164 aspd <.< such a -_-ty vani -.-
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Posted 19 February 2012 - 11:44 AM

You should be fine. You have pretty decent aspd. Mine is level 90 atm and has 164 aspd <.< such a -_-ty vani -.-


@_@ Was worried because, last time I had 98 and 99 evo Van I had 178 and 179 aspd respectively, while a friend's van had 183, and changing that 179 aspd 99 evo van to bayeri dropped it all the way down to 156 aspd... so, unless evolution brings up its aspd by quite a bit, I'll be stuck with 150 aspd and below when I go S again. ._.
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Posted 19 February 2012 - 03:36 PM

No upload images in WP forums?!

http://forums.irowik...524#post1216524


After checking your homun's Crit I got another theory in my mind: the non-S homunculi don't have the stat cap, only homunculi S!!!!

Thanks to the ridiculous evolution effect (huge stat bonus), the pre-S homunculi can break the 150 stat cap until they become S, then the stat cap is applied. Because the capped LUK (an example) is 150, making Crit 51 (51 = (LUK / 3) + 1).

1st image: non-evolved vanil (typical stats).
2nd image: evolved vanil (over-increased stats).
3rd image: S-evolved homun, stat cap not applied yet (similar issue than job bonus stats upon job change, they start over when you change maps).
4th image: S-evolved homun, stat cap applied.

Also, in the 3rd image I noticed that its DEX was over 150 too (its DEX was 175), so when you changed maps after S-evolving your homun (4th image), the stat cap applied on DEX and all of its stats (Hit 424 before stat cap, Hit 399 after stat cap being applied). Don't forget that DEX does affect homun's ASPD.

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#36 Uyuni

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 07:50 PM

I'll send a ticket to the GMs to get the info.

Even if normal homunculus do not have stat cap to 150, I doubt you can actually hit over those stats, unless of course you have a vanilmirth with a terrific stat growth.

Oh yeah and a normal homunculus at lv 150 does not help much anyway :/ other than bragging rights "My pet has better stats than yours"/

Edited by Uyuni, 19 February 2012 - 07:52 PM.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:41 PM

Does anyone have a filir to Eira? Id love to see the stat growth. My filir has had pretty decent stat growth as of thus far after the reset. I would really hate to to reset again to vani after being already to lvl 5x. I just deleted my 99 vani for the reset already T.T lvling is becoming to much of a process fighting a way o lvl (semi afking) in ant hell.

Also, is it better to evolve early or later?

Edited by kiryuphoenix, 20 February 2012 - 08:47 PM.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 11:52 PM

Vani pre-evo:

lvl 62
atk 78
matk 225
forgot to write down hit
crit 24
def 224
mdef 158
flee 145
aspd 159

HP 5538
SP 211


Post Evo:
Atk 132 - 131 after vap/recall
Matk 317 - 310 after vap/recall
Hit 345
Crit 50
def 271
mdef 202
flee 170
aspd 159 - 169 after vap/recall
hp 8775
sp 824 (!!!!)


Filir
lvl 72

Pre-evo:
atk 74
matk 186
hit 297
crit 17
def 136
mdef 86
flee 176
aspd 164
hp 4315
sp 341

Post Evo:
atk 94 (WAAAH!)
matk 234
hit 329
crit 22
def 193
mdef 125
flee 214
aspd 164 - 177 after vap/recall
hp 5720
sp 603
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 01:24 AM

[quote name='DrAzzy' timestamp='1329987133' post='767466']
Vani pre-evo:

lvl 62
atk 78
matk 225
forgot to write down hit
crit 24
def 224
mdef 158
flee 145
aspd 159

HP 5538
SP 211


Post Evo:
Atk 132 - 131 after vap/recall
Matk 317 - 310 after vap/recall
Hit 345
Crit 50
def 271
mdef 202
flee 170
aspd 159 - 169 after vap/recall
hp 8775
sp 824 (!!!!)

Azzy nice sp on your vani man....i cant wait till i can evolve mine its lvl 72 and just alittle under your current vani when it evolves im expecting something good~ but im on the fence here....u need 911 lotalty to evolve and i only got 179 atm....wonder if i should just remake the next chance which i believe was the 28th?

Edited by Tyki00, 23 February 2012 - 01:24 AM.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 02:35 AM


Vani pre-evo:

lvl 62
atk 78
matk 225
forgot to write down hit
crit 24
def 224
mdef 158
flee 145
aspd 159

HP 5538
SP 211


Post Evo:
Atk 132 - 131 after vap/recall
Matk 317 - 310 after vap/recall
Hit 345
Crit 50
def 271
mdef 202
flee 170
aspd 159 - 169 after vap/recall
hp 8775
sp 824 (!!!!)

Azzy nice sp on your vani man....i cant wait till i can evolve mine its lvl 72 and just alittle under your current vani when it evolves im expecting something good~ but im on the fence here....u need 911 lotalty to evolve and i only got 179 atm....wonder if i should just remake the next chance which i believe was the 28th?

is 824 sp good?
my 49 vani got 811...

stats here :-

Evolved Vani

Atk -100
Matk - 252
Hit - 280
Critz - 42
Def - 229
Mdef -170
Flee- 139(-_-ty right?)
aspd- 161


idk hw god these stats are, am i good to go?

Edited by Heart, 23 February 2012 - 02:37 AM.

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#41 Tyki00

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 02:57 AM

is 824 sp good?
my 49 vani got 811...

stats here :-

Evolved Vani

Atk -100
Matk - 252
Hit - 280
Critz - 42
Def - 229
Mdef -170
Flee- 139(-_-ty right?)
aspd- 161


idk hw god these stats are, am i good to go?


Here is my lvl 72 vani http://imgur.com/klW8t u till me...XD (not evolved)

Edited by Tyki00, 23 February 2012 - 02:58 AM.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 03:28 AM

Here is my lvl 72 vani http://imgur.com/klW8t u till me...XD (not evolved)

no idea...i nvr had vani be4 the free loyalty LOL

Edit:

this is gonna sound REALLY WEIRD

lvl 57 vani
stats
STR : 84 ~ 87 + 4 (+ 0)
AGI :103
VIT : 86
INT : 93 5
DEX : 93
LUK : 133 ~ 134
Aspd : 166.7
HPR : 63
SPR : 24

expectations according to calcs...

at lvl 150

STR 150 + 4
AGI 150
VIT 150
INT 150 + 5
DEX 150
LUK 150
HPR 151
SPR 47

Atk 166
Matk 487
Hit 450
Critical 51
Def 487
Mdef ---
Flee 315
Aspd 183.1

isnt tht SOOOO PRO? 150 ALL STATS??

sadly its gonna be a perma 99/70 brewer >_<


Edited by Heart, 23 February 2012 - 05:19 AM.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 07:10 PM

Here are my male and female gentics and their homun.
Male has Lif (Coraline)
Female has Vani -> Sera
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Gonna get filir and amistir on my new chemists once I feel like doing the job change -.-

Update on Lif:
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Edited by dontleaveme, 23 February 2012 - 10:02 PM.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 06:00 PM

These are my 99 Evolved vani's stats, just wanted to see if they are any good and maybe get a recommendation on somwhere to lvl other than OD2 XDD

Atk 154
Matk 417
Critical 51
Def 431
Mdef 302
Flee 255
Aspd 184

Hp 11,088
Sp 897

i would just post a pic but i suck at useing the forums =_=

Edited by Slowbro, 02 March 2012 - 11:48 AM.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 06:49 PM

I suppose I'll post various stages of my Amistr in case anyone is interested.

BEFORE reset, level 100 pre-renewal leveled and evolved:
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Level 1 after reset:
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Level 65, right after maintenance but before evolution:
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Level 65, after evolution:
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Current, evolved:
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Edit: Amistr Bullwark is enabled in the last picture. Def is 430 without it.

Edited by Tigra, 24 February 2012 - 06:50 PM.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 06:58 PM

I suppose I'll post various stages of my Amistr in case anyone is interested.

BEFORE reset, level 100 pre-renewal leveled and evolved:
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Level 1 after reset:
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Level 65, right after maintenance but before evolution:
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Level 65, after evolution:
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Current, evolved:
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Edit: Amistr Bullwark is enabled in the last picture. Def is 430 without it.

nice boost in def from ur reset o.0 and lol at the sign
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 08:13 PM

Update on Sera and Lif (Coraline) (:

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 08:58 AM

I suppose I'll post various stages of my Amistr in case anyone is interested.

BEFORE reset, level 100 pre-renewal leveled and evolved:
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Level 1 after reset:
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Level 65, right after maintenance but before evolution:
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Level 65, after evolution:
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Current, evolved:
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Edit: Amistr Bullwark is enabled in the last picture. Def is 430 without it.

I'd say that Amistr is a keeper o:
Very nice DEF and HP growth.

This is my sheep at lvl 82.
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That's without Bulwark.

Edited by iiNote, 25 February 2012 - 09:10 AM.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 09:27 AM

Update on Sera. I'll post an Update on lif after a few more levels.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 09:23 PM

I'd say that Amistr is a keeper o:
Very nice DEF and HP growth.


Thanks a lot, glad it was worth resetting since I don't have time to play much. I'm wondering what homunculus S I should go for... I was thinking Bayeri? My Amistr seems a lot more defensive than offensive atm.

Edited by Tigra, 25 February 2012 - 09:24 PM.

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