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[CeruleanGamer]

Stat averages are here:
http://irowiki.org/wiki/Vanilmirth

But why does my Vanilmirth have 12k+ HP and almost 1k SP? It's not even homunculus S yet?

Did I just get super awesome stat rolls or was there a trick behind this that I am not aware of? Were homunculi stats affected after patch? I vaporized and recalled this homunculus twice and still got the same stats.

Edited by CeruleanGamer, 26 January 2012 - 09:46 PM.

[DrAzzy]

Interesting...


Homun stat growth in renewal is a lot higher for SP and HP than it was before....

That kinda screws over people who have had loyal homuns for a long time ...


Those stats are about what I got when I made a vani on sakray, but way better than what I got on my old homuns. Particularly for SP.

Was that homun made during renewal or pre-renewal?

Edited by DrAzzy, 26 January 2012 - 09:51 PM.

[CeruleanGamer]

Interesting...


Homun stat growth in renewal is a lot higher for SP and HP than it was before....

That kinda screws over people who have had loyal homuns for a long time ...


Those stats are about what I got when I made a vani on sakray, but way better than what I got on my old homuns. Particularly for SP.

Was that homun made during renewal or pre-renewal?

Made after renewal and evolved just today.

[Niji]

now that's a problem.

[AhinaReyoh]

Yeah... that's about 3x more SP then my old pre-renewal Vanil. ._. Guess I need to remake.

[wonka]

aaah so if i want cute stats i need to remake my Homun!? not happening

Edited by wonka, 27 January 2012 - 07:06 AM.

[Niji]

ikr not happenin here either i've had this one for a long time!!

[blitzrick]

Yes I can confirm there is a irregularity with recently evolved homunculus. This Filir was evolved after balance patch, stats are without Flitting and Accelerated Flight.

Compare with average stat http://irowiki.org/wiki/Filir

Also take a look at this thread http://forums.irowik...ead.php?t=65984 . Pay attention to Homunculus type, their HP/SP and more importantly post date. The old posts have HP/SP similar to wiki average, while the recent post have improved HP/SP.

So my quick conclusion is: any Homunculus that are evolved after balance patch will have the improved stats.

[CeruleanGamer]

I decided to get my Loyalty skill and keep feeding this glutton for 2-3 more weeks since the ASPD for Homunculus S is still bugged.

[DrAzzy]

I've contacted Oda regarding this, he will speak to Heim about how to address this. He agrees that it's a serious issue, especially in light of how hard it is to loyal a homun - remaking isn't really an option.

[poringjr]

I already remake my homunculus do that mean I am screwed?

[razirazo]

I think its not the renewal, but balance patch.
my Homunc made after renewal, but before the balance patch and it is lot weaker then yours.

Pre homunc S


after homunc S(Eleanor).

Edited by razirazo, 27 January 2012 - 09:53 AM.

[bigstuff17]

yeah seriously. my 99 loyal vani only had like just over 9k hp and like 400 sp way pre-renewal. so vani's made post-renewal, another example of ro turning easy-mode.

[Snewt]

My Bayeri (previously a Filir) really, really, sucks.

[Susan]

Here's my 99 vanils stats, i think my vanil was below average (except for crit and sp) but i dont care and didnt want to remake.

evolved shortly before Homu S updated
before Evolution (pudding)

after (fishy)

[razirazo]

Here's my 99 vanils stats, i think my vanil was below average (except for crit and sp) but i dont care and didnt want to remake.

evolved shortly before Homu S updated
before Evolution (pudding)

after (fishy)

made after balance patch?

[Susan]

nah that homu is old, probably pre renewal

[razirazo]

hmm strange. mine made after renewal still, lot lot weaker.

[DrAzzy]

Here's my 99 vanils stats, i think my vanil was below average (except for crit and sp) but i dont care and didnt want to remake.

evolved shortly before Homu S updated
before Evolution (pudding)

after (fishy)

It looks like your evolution brought the homun up to renewal stats....

Was it evolved after renewal?

Edited by DrAzzy, 27 January 2012 - 11:47 AM.

[Susan]

yes evolved about 2 weeks ago

[blitzrick]

...
So my quick conclusion is: any Homunculus that are evolved after balance patch will have the improved stats.

Do you guys not read this?

[DrAzzy]

Do you guys not read this?

Nope, i didn't.

[Snewt]

That's good news for my unevolved Vani, but not my Bayeri. I really don't wanna remake but I will if I have to.

[Myzery]

Pretty dumb if they don't get the stats grandfathered in.

[DrAzzy]

When I told Oda about this in the morning, he indicated that he would look into ways to fix that on people's homuns. But you all know how tricky the homun stuff seems to be for the GMs to do stuff to.

Edited by DrAzzy, 27 January 2012 - 12:54 PM.