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#76 DrAzzy

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 11:25 AM

Mmm... My dieter is still far from magma flow :-/ Only lvl 100, and OD2 gives worse exp than before double exp because it's so crowded.

Eleanor's about really high single target damage and high DPS - it'd be really OP with an AoE I think. Eleanor gets an instant cast damage skill with no delay that does best damage of the homun skills, while all the other homun S skills have interruptable cast times and delays.

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#77 dontleaveme

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 12:46 PM

This hasn't been mentioned so I though I would add that Poison Mist has an uninterruptable cast time. The cast is very fast as well. Little bit faster than needle of paralyze lvl 5 I believe.
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 12:55 PM

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, but dieter's pyroclastic can be interrupted and level 5 lasts for 3 minutes. During this period, you can't equip/unequip a weapon and fcp won't keep it from breaking.


Okay I tried fcp again and this time it worked. I made sure to cast fcp and then pyro and the weapon didn't break. So...I guess during woe I must've casted it after pyro, LOL

Edited by Glittercandy, 12 March 2012 - 01:52 PM.

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#79 novalkar

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 12:59 PM

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, but dieter's pyroclastic can be interrupted and level 5 lasts for 3 minutes. During this period, you can't equip/unequip a weapon and fcp won't keep it from breaking.

do axes break too? how about unbreakable weaps? or golem carded weaps?

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 01:07 PM

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, but dieter's pyroclastic can be interrupted and level 5 lasts for 3 minutes. During this period, you can't equip/unequip a weapon and fcp won't keep it from breaking.


Seriously? I never thought to test whether it blocked weapon switching on sak.
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 01:27 PM

That's a total downer. If it breaks axes that's a huge "nerf" considering people planned on spamming pyro.
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 01:34 PM

Yeah, if it breaks unbreakable items, that's a very very serious nerf to the skill - Like a "this skill is useless" level nerf.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 02:17 PM

Okay, further testing with Pyro gave me these results:
  • An axe with a zipper bear card didn't break
  • Bloody axe didn't break
  • Scalpel broke
  • FCP casted before pyro = scalpel didn't break
  • FCP casted after pyro = Main Gauche didn't break

Based on these results, I'm not sure what happened in woe then, to have my weapon break after pyro with fcp on. Sorry about that, guys! :ani_swt3:
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 02:29 PM

i was scared for a sec back there xD

maybe you got it stripped by a chaser using mask weakness and forgot to reequip it when re-coating, that happened to me once at least with my shield

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 04:17 PM

Eleanor's about really high single target damage and high DPS - it'd be really OP with an AoE I think. Eleanor gets an instant cast damage skill with no delay that does best damage of the homun skills, while all the other homun S skills have interruptable cast times and delays.


that'S true. here's a quick vid i took today to show you guys how quick she kills stuff lol. (and how quick she runs out of sp from full lol.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ibNUhIrQ8

takes 1 full minute to go from 1080 SP to nothing.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 04:26 PM

I feel like every homun S in OP in 1 way or another... besides Bayeri :x

Sera -> painkiller
Dieter -> ash, pyro
Eleanor -> crazy pvm dps and grappler skills in pvp
Eira -> can farm intimacy for Self Destruct... only homun S that can get 189 aspd making her a decent emp breaker
Bayeri -> umm... safety wall? T^T

Bayeri users need to find out some special trick to give me a reason to chose bayeri over dieter
on my baby chemist.
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 05:11 PM

I feel like every homun S in OP in 1 way or another... besides Bayeri :x

Sera -> painkiller
Dieter -> ash, pyro
Eleanor -> crazy pvm dps and grappler skills in pvp
Eira -> can farm intimacy for Self Destruct... only homun S that can get 189 aspd making her a decent emp breaker
Bayeri -> umm... safety wall? T^T

Bayeri users need to find out some special trick to give me a reason to chose bayeri over dieter
on my baby chemist.


It's not quite as fugly?
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 07:15 PM

It's not quite as fugly?


Maybe you have to know how to polish its horn just right...
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 08:42 PM

Dieter isn't fugly. It's a cute little naked...boy...inside a bottle. :/

Oh! I see. Dieter users just insist it's ugly so that they don't get called out as shotacons.

...yeah it's pretty ugly! <.<; >.>; haha
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 05:13 AM

Speaking of Dieter...

Volcanic ash effects you and other players :/
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 10:40 AM

I will update the OP later today / tonight when I am not quite as busy as I am right now ( can't even get on to play :-( ) with the findings on here.
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 02:07 PM

Sooo good new with painkiller. Seems the number of mobs doesn't effect the reduction, will do further resting later on :P (there were a lot more mobs outside of the screenie attacking me)
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I was using all afk gears besides my +7 immune backpack

Azzy, sera doesn't seem to want to painkiller me with the AI. I have to do it manually.

Edit: It's hard to stay painkillered on high leveled maps :x
It has an interruptable cast time (it's pretty long compared to her other skills) and 60 sec duration.


Before painkiller Posted Image after painkiller (aspd drop) Posted Image

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 02:25 PM

wow that is nice, does the endure status last the whole time or is it just for a standard endure length?
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 02:47 PM

standard endure. when leveling it's best to set your AI to ignore everything otherwise sera goes off on her own and dies pretty fast.

confirmed that pain killer cannot be used on sera herself, a mercenary, or another homun in pvm. I will try in pvp later tonight.

You can use pain killer on other players in pvm without having to be in a party. This leaves for possible abuse to nerf ctrl click chars because of pain killers aspd reduction. Then again, who actually ctrl click levels after 100+? :P

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 05:10 PM

does the painkiller buff stays on relog / map change / map server change?
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 05:31 PM

does the painkiller buff stays on relog / map change / map server change?


pain killer buff does stay from relog / map change / server change

okay!!! new testing from pain killer in pvp. Basically it makes every normal attack miss, even crits, for the duration of pain killer!

forgot to take a screen shot -.- will make sure to get one next time.

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 06:13 PM

Oh....oh my....both my questions answered with what I wanted to hear.

This is good news.
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 06:17 PM

Oh....oh my....both my questions answered with what I wanted to hear.

This is good news.


Now I need to figure out if the auto warg from a ctrl click ranger will do dmg when under painkiller.
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 06:36 PM

You can use pain killer on other players in pvm without having to be in a party. This leaves for possible abuse to nerf ctrl click chars because of pain killers aspd reduction. Then again, who actually ctrl click levels after 100+? :P


Autowarg Rangers and Guillotine Cross.

I'm more worried about Dieter's volcanic ash being abusable vs friendly players. You can throw that down at the portal to any map and everyone coming in has to wait 30 seconds or so before they can be un-gimped.

Sera is starting to look awesome. I wish she had a male sprite though. The only reason I didn't choose Eleanor/Eira/Sera is because I'm a bit miffed at them all being a set gender. Kind of petty, but that does bother me since my homunculus has always been an estblished male.

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 06:37 PM

pain killer buff does stay from relog / map change / server change

okay!!! new testing from pain killer in pvp. Basically it makes every normal attack miss, even crits for the duration of pain killer!

forgot to take a screen shot -.- will make sure to get one next time.

does that work on woe? if so, i'm sooo using that
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