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[Genesis]

We have the Premium Account service now which is probably the closest thing we'll ever have again to a P2P subscription model. Perhaps you could think more about what aspects or features of P2P could be applied to the Premium Account to make it a viable option for those who are currently reluctant to purchase because of its supposed lack of value for money.

[Dusk1PS]

Some may be implimented already, I wouldn't know. I don't have Premium. But some thoughts...


1)Ability to access storage from any location - Great for Premium.

2)Based on Premium Account tier of time period, a free 1-3 Reskills(based on how much time period was purchased) through the Monster Trader.

3)Making the Daily Box much more useful with only useful boxes(Gem Boxes, Catalyst, Special promotional items, Lucky Spin coins?, Restats/Re-skills, Re-roll hammers, Face/Hair coupons, Cart parts?, 2 Teleport Tickets) without all the junk of Box of Wood, Leather, Metal and 10 minute medals that can't be traded.

4)Bonus Exp/Valor/Honor points per Quest/UW.

5)Bonus Refine %s @ Refining NPCs

6) Free Repair costs @ NPCs

Not all need to be implimented, just some ideas.

[BobDylan]

Here are a couple things I think that could be added to the premium service to make it a better value.

• Add the ability to transfer items between the two servers.
• Give newly created premium account characters a special, nontradable, visitor costume and weapon. This would make sense since one of the reasons you should get a premium account is to create more than three characters.
• Increase the amount of mats that come out of the wood, metal, and fabric boxes. I'm not sure exactly what the number should be, but only giving 10 of them kind of seems like a joke.

[TruPain]

• I am still on the whole premium channel kick that I was on before... I think having a special channel just for premium members would be very nice as well as the possibility of more users going for the premium account just for the extra chance of finding an area that isn't hounded by multiple parties and botters in the smaller locations that are good to play at...

• I do like the idea of either better items coming out of the daily boxes or a higher quantity of items coming out of the daily boxes...

• transfer between servers I have to say I don't like that idea... but that is just my personal opinion on that one...

Thats about all I can come up with at the moment of things that I think would have the largest incentive without calling it a "give me everything" premium service...

[Phish]

I disagree, You can get wealthy enough without buying IM. For myself: I bought all my stuff with zulies. I agree that if you had bought the stuff you would obtain it slightly faster. Remember it takes money to make money, once you have 1b, you can have many more with ease.

But remember even if you aren't buying item mall with your own money you are still buying it indirectly. If you buy it directly you said it yourself, it is that much easier.

The pay to win mindset, isn't just the fact that there is an item mall, it's the fact that the game revolves so much around it and the advantage it brings.

[nikst3r]

...I think the possibility of more users going for the premium account just for the extra chance of finding an area that isn't hounded by multiple parties and botters in the smaller locations that are good to play at...

Your idea of having a seperate server for premium members will most likely fail by underpopulation. At first some enthousiast will join but as time goes these people will start to leave because of their friends not wanting to pay for something that's initially free. You might want to focus on new players, but they will only pay if the game is complete or at least has the potential to be finished soon. Not the case with our game, unfortunately.

The botting and leeching problem is not created by the game being f2p, nor will it end when it goes p2p. The main reason I think it happens is because there is nobody who check's the game. There should be a GM who interacts and socialise with players ingame. For every business succes is created by communicating and participating with customers (being able to see and know what they like or want) so you can react to it. In rose we can send in a ticket if we find a botting party but this makes it even more OUR problem, who cares you might ask yourself?

...But remember even if you aren't buying item mall with your own money you are still buying it indirectly...

...it's the fact that the game revolves so much around it and the advantage it brings...

I agree with you on both points. A lot of people wouldn't be this wealthy if the item mall didn't existed. The business model of Rose is based on the Item mall, therefor keeping the game alive providing us with something we like, being it items, zulie, even the game itself. It is payed by everyone. Without me, or anyone similar to me, there isn't much to resell to ingame ^^

[TruPain]

Your idea of having a seperate server for premium members will most likely fail by underpopulation. At first some enthousiast will join but as time goes these people will start to leave because of their friends not wanting to pay for something that's initially free. You might want to focus on new players, but they will only pay if the game is complete or at least has the potential to be finished soon. Not the case with our game, unfortunately.

You are misreading what I typed/requested...

a "Premium Channel" not premium server...

much like how rose used to have 3 channels and now there is one channel... if they would add another channel that was only accessible through a premium account, I think players from across the board would like that... there are some people that simply don't want to be bothered with others and there are some people that just want to farm... those who like ot farm are more than likely the higher level players of course and fight constantly over a spot... whereas with a premium "channel" a user can pay to have access to the same spots that may or may not be less populated depending on the amount of people that choose to pay for the premium service... I happen to be one of those players that just wants to be left alone and not be spammed with party requests while I am fighting a group of enemies... I used to always play on channel 3 when there was the 3 channels just because it was generally the least populated channel...
I think perhaps a premium channel would be a decent way for more players to purchase the premium account status... there are quite a few benefits from a premium channel... most are player based on why they would choose it though...


As for a preium server... absolutely... that would fail...

[nikst3r]

...fight constantly over a spot... whereas with a premium "channel" a user can pay to have access to the same spots that may or may not be less populated depending on the amount of people that choose to pay for the premium service...

I misread, indeed.. A premium channel might benefit players that are looking for less populated farming spots. One downside of this additional server might be a lower value of the items farmed in this spot, especially very rare items that normaly would only be obtained trough the normal channels.

Still, I strongly suggest a watchman which controlls the botting and leeching, this will solve the problem, free of charge