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[BrownBear]

The extra bonuses on the spear/sword/axe AP passives are reduced from 20% at max to 10% at max (on both versions of the passives). There goes 20% movement speed. Quick step changed from 25% passive to 10% passive. Problem solved (hopefully). They would go from 65% (20+20+25) mspd from passives to 30% (10+10+10) mspd from passives.

Other classes will probably still say they are too fast, but hawkers shouldn't have much to complain about anymore.

If more needs to be done, they could change quick step to an MP passive () or change sprint (hawker skill) to a 10% mspd passive.

[poopiehead]

umm i thought that removing quick step is not a good idea at first
but making a spear champ change to a new stat doesnt feel rite
so the 50% aspd 50% mspd seems valid
if you can think of any new stat that movespeed on spears can be replaced by then tell
the real argument is that champs need to be the 2nd fastest and making raiders even faster would imbalce the game so champ mspd has to be nerfed
where as raider take 10SPs just to get a 50% mspd buff (thats jus 15% more than buff pot)
champs can get 25% passive with 4 SPs its just NOT RATIONAL

but u said "this aint a nerf thread"

Edited by poopiehead, 16 September 2010 - 09:27 AM.

[Span]

Spears only else champions cant chase CGs

[BrownBear]

Spears only else champions cant chase CGs

Stupid post is stupid.

Edited by BrownBear, 16 September 2010 - 10:15 AM.

[Span]

Stupid post is stupid.

Well someday that will happen !

[Graziano]

Well someday that will happen !

orlo cg should run faster
see what i did there

Edited by Graziano, 16 September 2010 - 11:08 AM.

[iBryan]

i Agree on the mspd suggestion, but disagree with the others on nerfing the offensive skills.

Maybe balanced out the stuns more since we still have 3, but besides the stun skills things are fine we're talking about reliable skills here so we cant complain with the success rate.

[Phish]

The extra bonuses on the spear/sword/axe AP passives are reduced from 20% at max to 10% at max (on both versions of the passives). There goes 20% movement speed. Quick step changed from 25% passive to 10% passive. Problem solved (hopefully). They would go from 65% (20+20+25) mspd from passives to 30% (10+10+10) mspd from passives.

Other classes will probably still say they are too fast, but hawkers shouldn't have much to complain about anymore.

If more needs to be done, they could change quick step to an MP passive () or change sprint (hawker skill) to a 10% mspd passive.

Maybe. But the 40% crit for the axe passive is so unappealing it doesn't need to be lowered. Also there already is an mp passive (champion spirit) which gives you unlimited mp if you as long as you don't spam charge.

[BrownBear]

Maybe. But the 40% crit for the axe passive is so unappealing it doesn't need to be lowered. Also there already is an mp passive (champion spirit) which gives you unlimited mp if you as long as you don't spam charge.

Oh, I thought that was MP recovery not max MP. Well whichever it isn't, you can change quick step to that.

[Phish]

It's both...

[BrownBear]

Uhm. Make it....dammit man they have too much of like every stat.

Replace it with a new nonreliable active skill. No status effects though.

[Phish]

Might as well just remove it completely then make it something useless. But honestly it shouldn't be replaced, if there mspeed is needed to be lowered quick step should be made like a 10% passive or something.


I lost 260 mspeed in fighting gear in todays update; it almost feels slow but thats because I was spoiled before. Even with the loss my champ is still a good amount faster than all my other characters.

Edited by Phish, 16 September 2010 - 05:55 PM.