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[MrTyranitar]

I think we're all a little tired of going to train in a dungeon, we'll say Orc Dungeon, and seeing MVPs (that shouldn't be there).

If people can't handle (their) MVPs, they shouldn't be using BBs, right? Well, that's partly true, I guess. Sura/Geneticist (don't start anything, just listing two classes that are good for MVPing) can't really harm them much, so I'm not going to blame them for avoiding a Thanatos, Beezlebub or Gloom. However, spawning MVPs knowingly where people are going to pass by (Orc Dungeon) is griefing, basically, you're just looking for potential victims (if things don't go your way).

This problem wouldn't be "fixed" by re-enabling field BBing because the same crap happened in low level maps. Beezlebub was constantly in Pecos, for instance, or Ifrit in South Prontera. Besides, to a lesser extent because people don't like them as much, Dead Branches are causing a bad issue too of where no one wants to kill Bio3 monsters. Usually Howard Alt-Eisen, I've seen him at least three different times in low level maps. Yggdrasil and Valkyrie have an issue with Kavach Icarus and Cecil Damon to my knowledge.

Enabling in fields has the inherent risk of dead cell abuse. We can say "oh, but the GMs will block BBs from the maps that have dead cells". Correction: It'd be blocked in maps that have known dead cells. If more are found, people will abuse those like they did the previous ones... time and time again our playerbase has shown it will do anything to succeed, even low tactics like that. Heim has more or less said something to this effect, too - because it's true.

Therefore, I propose a room, probably the size of a Endless Tower floor, in which you may use DBs and BBs as much as you like. If making it instanced (allow the instance to include the creator's party) would not be feasible due to massive server strain, there's an easier alternative - make one or two of the room and put each of them in each town's Inns (so for instance Prontera Inn would have one or two of said room, perhaps one upstairs and one downstairs). This way, it lessens the possibility that someone will stumble upon your DBs/BBs, but there's still the chance (as it's public after all, just like any other DB/BB method, but it's not going to interfere with anyone).

Fly Wings should be allowed in the map, but not Teleport, however in the end I don't think that really matters, the room (possibly) existing is the important part.

The way I see it, the only people who would disagree with it are griefers who love BBing to "get back at people", griefers who think it's funny to see people die because most MVPs either have screen-wide AoEs/long range attacks, or people who stalk known BBers to steal them/harass them (I've seen this happen).

It's a win/win if such a room was implemented, I think it'd be a great addition and it would encourage exploration of the lesser known towns, as well, even if only slightly.

[RennaSaintsworth]

+9000 for this post

[big742003]

Someone just BBed Turtle General across my in Ygg, but I died and he got off screen right before I could screen shot him.

[BlueMizuki]

I remember this was suggested before a few times by other people but yet I still don't have the slightest clue why they STILL have not put this genius plan into effect!

I used to go with my old guild leader and the guildies on Loki server and do Bloody Branching in the guild pvp rooms, but they long since removed that before server merged >_<;;; Might be good idea to get the map around that size and style perhaps?